Ted Nugent...


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He has a unique personality. I'm sure he couldn't have known it was illegal because they put it on TV. I know there is going to be someone to pipe up and say but you should always know the laws of the state your hunting in brt you also trust your outfitters to tell you that information as well. I really don't put too much stake into this. Would they really air it on tv knowing they were breakng the law?

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I guess I'll hold off passing judgment on the man until I hear his side of it.

I love his music. I have met him twice and hung out with him once. He is a super individual. I generally don't watch his TV show. If he is hunting over bait (and presumably in an area where it's legal to do so) I will turn him off faster than a crossbow hunt. Still............I'll not toss the noose around a guy's neck until I have all the info I can gather. You, naturally, may do as you wish.

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I like Ted Nugent. Sometimes his hunting methods get under my skin and are not anything I would ever do but I guess to each his own. Probably didn't know that you couldn't take a spike in CA and the outfitter is probably in hot water. One thing that I do like about him is that he is always excited if he shoots a basket rack or a doe. He just likes shoot'in stuff.

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Too many laws, too many discrepancies between states, too many differing town ordinances; any hunter can be brought in for any number of charges on any given day. Anyone that says it isn't so... well, I won't pass judgment on people that say they follow every law to the letter everytime, but I'll just say it is highly unlikely and very impossible over any length of time.

99% of the laws didn't even exist 50 years ago, so I think it is time for these hyper-sensitive DNR people to relax a bit.

My buddy was stalked by Indiana DNR for 6 weeks while they tried to catch him hunting over bait (salt). He never did, but they wasted so much time staking out the area, taking pictures and driving around their hunting area waiting for them to mess up - they had to give them tickets to justify the time they spent. They got him on not wearing his hunter orange while in his treestand (it was setting next to him on private land) and having his lifetime license in his other hunting pants in the truck. 6 weeks! That's about $5,000-$8,000 of taxpayer dollars for a $250 dollar fine. They should have let 'em go for being honest hunters. They COULD have hunted over bait, but they didn't. So instead of saying, "hey these guys are good, ethical hunters." No, they got them on BS charges.

You can ticket any hunter at anytime - just surprise him and he's bound to be in violation (walking after dark with an arrow nocked how many of you have done that?

Well, you're a poacher, then)

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Like Don said, I'll hold off judging the man till I hear both sides. Ted's a strange cookie, but has done a lot of good for hunters over the years. I will sometimes watch his show but more out of curiosity of what rant he'll be on for the week than a "quality hunting show". If he did kill an illegal spike over illegal bait then shame on him and his crew.

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sounds like a load of crap to me. And as far as hunting over bait, there is noone in hear that has not or does not do it, be it legal baiting or not. If you hunt over a corn field, that's bait. If you hunt over or near a wheat field, that's bait. Acorn tree, apple tree, clover, turnip, or lab lab, that's bait. It may be natural but it is still bait.

Uncle Ted has done more for our and our childrens hunting and gun rights than most all of us could even imagine.

There is not a person in here that has not done something illegal while hunting or on their way hunting, whether you knew it or not.

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sounds like a load of crap to me. And as far as hunting over bait, there is noone in hear that has not or does not do it, be it legal baiting or not. If you hunt over a corn field, that's bait. If you hunt over or near a wheat field, that's bait. Acorn tree, apple tree, clover, turnip, or lab lab, that's bait. It may be natural but it is still bait.

Laws are generally pretty clear as to what is considered bait and what is not. They do vary from state to state, but when you're in his shoes and producing a show like he does, you don't make STUPID mistakes like that. Like I said, I'm not passing judgement on the guy, I don't know the whole story, but the comparison you are making is apples and oranges to me. IMHO

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I like Ted,but he should have known the rules there. Should have read the law book. I highly doubt he knew it was illegal or he would have never put it on tv. There is no excuse for it really. If he hired the guide it is more the guides fault then Teds.I will still watch Ted when I get the chance...guy cracks me up, and is not the next Noel Feather.....

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I wonder how the tone of the replies would change if his name was Joe Nobody. I'll bet there would be no apologetic forgiveness going on. I guess stardom does have its privileges .... eh? I've seen it before, and we normally are not this forgiving of game law violators.

Doc

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Personally?...I'm pretty sure he knew the law...

From his article write up...

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On this early season bowhunt for CA blacktail dee, Ted used his #50 Martin Rytera AlienX bow, GodTip 5575 Nuge arrows, 100 grain Magnus Busscut broadhead, Scott release, Lumenok lighted nocks, Sims LimbSavers, drop away arrow rest, fiber optic sight and accessories, Mossy Oak lightweight Savannag ScentLok clothing. Bushnell optics and flashlight, ThermaCell, Code Blue scents and scent eliminator, Knight and Hale calls, C’Mere Deer during the (p)reseason, Outdoor Edge knives, Glenn’s Deerhandle and numerous Our Fathers and Hail Mary’s

He knew it was against the law to bait...I figure that's why he stated it was used in the preseason...

He should also know that C'Mere deer is a mineral attractant that leaches into the soil...and, supposedly, attracts deer long after its initial application.

Laws aren't instituted so that we, as hunters, can pick and choose the ones we are going to abide by...otherwise, they aren't Laws, they're Guidelines.

Bob

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C'Mere Deer works??? :toot:

Yep.... works by paying Ted's bills everytime he mentions it.

All ethical hunters need to stick together, & not worry about where someone shoots a xbow, or a compound bow, it is really sickening when someone is so narrow minded that they degrade someone for shooting a crossbow. IMO

Kind of off topic but...... Welcome to the forums.

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C'Mere Deer works??? :toot:

:clap::clap:;);)

That's why I said "supposedly" !!

Bob:D

I'll bet Buck Grubb would have worked better than that spike attractant. :clown: :D

I'll reserve my judgement too. I'm not a big fan of his show but he sure does a lot for hunting, getting youngsters into hunting, and speaking our for our gun rights. Over the years that's cost him millions.

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I just wonder how many of you clowns have ever hunted over bait? legal or illegal? yeah he baits them, he provides prime habitat for them on HIS land and they come! and so he uses a little c'mere deer for the camera! God bless him!:cool2:

No need for name calling, this was a perfectly civil thread until you had to come in calling people clowns for their opinion.:hammer1:

My problem isn't that he baited them, it's that he did it illegally, then broke 2 other laws/rules by shooting a spike and then not getting his tag signed. But it is the holier than thou Ted Nugent and he can do no wrong, right?

He should have known what he was doing and checked the regs on it. Don't leave it up to the outfitter, he knows how to read, it is just as much his fault (if not all) as anyone since he is the one shooting. Something like baiting and legal deer size varies all across the country, you would think that someone that has been around as much as he has would know that it is different from one state to the next.

I wonder how the tone of the replies would change if his name was Joe Nobody. I'll bet there would be no apologetic forgiveness going on. I guess stardom does have its privileges .... eh? I've seen it before, and we normally are not this forgiving of game law violators.

Doc

Yep...The term Double Standard has been thrown around the forums a few times, and this is why.

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I just wonder how many of you clowns have ever hunted over bait? legal or illegal? yeah he baits them, he provides prime habitat for them on HIS land and they come! and so he uses a little c'mere deer for the camera! God bless him!:cool2:

Yup! Let's all pat him on the back. After all, he's above the law ...... right? We should all congratulate law-breakers and poachers.

Doc

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