total disaster Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 the other thread got me wondering. how many birds do you think you lose in a year? I know when I hunt eiders its crazy and I have left hunts because it was just one of them days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 I would say on average 2 birds a year I will not get picked up. I figure doing all my hunting by walking in only and no dog, thats not bad at all. I know folks that lose a ton more than that and hunt out of boats and dogs around me. One thing I do though, is pick up a every single bird before I pull the trigger again. Even if it takes me an hour to find the bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
total disaster Posted September 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 thats pretty good!! I have seen double that on normal day sometimes !! where I hunt we have strong tide (rises and falls 14-16 feet every 12 hours 6 hours coming 6 goin) only teal or black duck we loose is in grass but now we have a dog so that should change ...geese are tricky for us to as we crawl on them and have lost some crips but retrieved them the next day in the same area ...when we crawl the wind is blowing off shore and about 40 mph and boat is 200 yards away atleast all in all we are pretty determined to get crips and I also will leave my spread to help others with crips if we are diver hunting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 I can't remember the last bird I lost since hunting with a good dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 We hunt alot of lakes. I would say on average probably lose 10 a year. Unfortunately with no boat and no dog until now if there was a strong wind and the bird didn't drop within wading distance of the bank there is no way to get to them. One of the reason I shoot a full choke. It's either hit or miss. Not many crips with a full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTF Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 We hunt alot of lakes. I would say on average probably lose 10 a year. Unfortunately with no boat and no dog until now if there was a strong wind and the bird didn't drop within wading distance of the bank there is no way to get to them. One of the reason I shoot a full choke. It's either hit or miss. Not many crips with a full Ever think of using an inner tube or fishing pole ? The inner tube I am talking about is the one fishermen use with chest waders. I have retrieved many ducks with the fishing pole method. A good hit duck will always fall within casting range. Loosing 10 ducks a year would make me sick and want to quit duck hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) Call it what you want. You make it sound like we don't try and retrieve. We have done the fishing pole method and it does work. However you get a cripple on a 100,000 acre lake like texoma and then talk to me about chasing one down. You get to far out in a tube on this lake and the wind picks up there is no getting back to bank. I'm not saying I personally lose 10. I'm talking about my group and we normally have 4 guys. 2 of us also invested in dogs this year and have been doing alot of training. Edited September 13, 2010 by hutchies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 I dont lose many but I mainly hunt smaller ponds. In the past two seasons we have lost one duck. He was hit too hard to fly but still swiming. He went under and never came back up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Heck I've lost a deer bowhunting, a dove when dove hunting, lost a fish fishing....................... Maybe I should stop hunting and fishing all together........................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Heck I've lost a deer bowhunting, a dove when dove hunting, lost a fish fishing....................... Maybe I should stop hunting and fishing all together........................ Easy there, Bryan. I've had all of the above happen to me too; it comes with the territory. But as long as we do our best to recover that animal then that's not being irresponsible, but my original thread involved guys that were too lazy to wade into a shallow farm pond to retrieve their downed birds in plain sight. THAT is irresponsible. Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 I have lost a few the exact same way Jeramie. I was told the dive under and clamp on to something on the bottom of the pond??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 I would say maybe a total of 5 over a 4 year period, but I'm hunting a man made wetland that's only about 5 acres under water and only one little hole over my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTF Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Call it what you want. You make it sound like we don't try and retrieve. We have done the fishing pole method and it does work. However you get a cripple on a 100,000 acre lake like texoma and then talk to me about chasing one down. You get to far out in a tube on this lake and the wind picks up there is no getting back to bank. I'm not saying I personally lose 10. I'm talking about my group and we normally have 4 guys. 2 of us also invested in dogs this year and have been doing alot of training. Exactly. Re-read your post I quoted. We hunt alot of lakes. I would say on average probably lose 10 a year. Unfortunately with no boat and no dog until now if there was a strong wind and the bird didn't drop within wading distance of the bank there is no way to get to them. One of the reason I shoot a full choke. It's either hit or miss. Not many crips with a full You said yourself, it's either hit or miss and you don't get many cripples, and it was a lot of lakes. Now your saying it's the cripples that get away from you and it's because of one big lake? And I don't care how big the lake is your on. You sure as heck don't shoot across a 100,000 acre lake. Just like you called my post, I call it it as I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 I have lost a few the exact same way Jeramie. I was told the dive under and clamp on to something on the bottom of the pond??? I was told the same thing. The drake we lost last season went under by some grass and never came back up. I guess its true?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Call it what you want. Your right I'm not shooting across a 100,000 acre lake and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. However the spot we hunt most of the lake is around 3 miles across. Wind rarely blows toward the bank. I do shoot a full choke so hopefully it's either hit or miss. Maybe you missed the last sentence in that quote you posted......"not many crips with a full". Everyone has cripples...........fact of the matter. Either way if they fold and land and the wind is blowing 20 to 30 mph it doesn't take long for the ducks to reach where it's 20 foot deep and out of range of a pole there is no way to get to them. Your reply hasn't set right with me since I read it. People wonder why newbies and long time forum users don't stay around anymore. Call me unethical...........that's fine. You got guys out there that poach and guys out there that shoot and leave game laying. I hunt what i feel is ethical. If you don't like the way I hunt take it up with scott and have him ban me. Otherwise why don't you do what a mod is supposed to do...........support the forums, prevent arguements like this, and promote discussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Call it what you want. Your right I'm not shooting across a 100,000 acre lake and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. However the spot we hunt most of the lake is around 3 miles across. Wind rarely blows toward the bank. I do shoot a full choke so hopefully it's either hit or miss. Maybe you missed the last sentence in that quote you posted......"not many crips with a full". Everyone has cripples...........fact of the matter. Either way if they fold and land and the wind is blowing 20 to 30 mph it doesn't take long for the ducks to reach where it's 20 foot deep and out of range of a pole there is no way to get to them. Your reply hasn't set right with me since I read it. People wonder why newbies and long time forum users don't stay around anymore. Call me unethical...........that's fine. You got guys out there that poach and guys out there that shoot and leave game laying. I hunt what i feel is ethical. If you don't like the way I hunt take it up with scott and have him ban me. Otherwise why don't you do what a mod is supposed to do...........support the forums, prevent arguements like this, and promote discussions. Bryan...I think you went for the KO here... It happens, even with a full choke, in fact I had that happen to me yesterday on a goose with my 10 gauge. Didn't hit the body, but the Black Cloud bbs severed a couple wing bones and we were led on a wild goose chase around a flooded cattle pasture before we put the big gander out of its misery. Cripples are going to happen no matter how good of a hunter you are and you gotta accept that at face value. It happens; doesn't mean we're bad hunters, but it still happens anyway. Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Call it what you want. Your right I'm not shooting across a 100,000 acre lake and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. However the spot we hunt most of the lake is around 3 miles across. Wind rarely blows toward the bank. I do shoot a full choke so hopefully it's either hit or miss. Maybe you missed the last sentence in that quote you posted......"not many crips with a full". Everyone has cripples...........fact of the matter. Either way if they fold and land and the wind is blowing 20 to 30 mph it doesn't take long for the ducks to reach where it's 20 foot deep and out of range of a pole there is no way to get to them. Your reply hasn't set right with me since I read it. People wonder why newbies and long time forum users don't stay around anymore. Call me unethical...........that's fine. You got guys out there that poach and guys out there that shoot and leave game laying. I hunt what i feel is ethical. If you don't like the way I hunt take it up with scott and have him ban me. Otherwise why don't you do what a mod is supposed to do...........support the forums, prevent arguements like this, and promote discussions. I am not taking sides and could care less about this discussion. But I will say no one ever called you Unethical, so take that out of the quote. Also, talking about getting Scott involved and talking about bannings is a little rediculous. This whole, take everything so personal on a public forum is getting a little out of hand. All I have seen are opinions and options offered and placed out there that could help receover a downed or crippled bird. My opinion is you all should practice way more and kill a bird dead, never pull the trigger again till the last bird shot at is recovered wether its dead or still alive flying. And then once you have shot a bird dead, it should only land in your lap and not touch land or water, this is what I do with 100% of my birdws. And no, I am not going to put a smiley face after that last little paragraph to show you that I am joking. If you cant take that line as a joke and with a grain of salt you all should never be online ever again, the whole internet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTF Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 hutchies, slow your roll dude. No one is going to ban anyone. Why would you get banned ? No one including I labeled you unethical. The only reason I jumped back on you and said what I said in my second post was because you totally mis-read and mis-interpreted my first reply to this thread as something it wasn't. All I did was offer you options that could help receover a downed or crippled bird.I said it would make me sick if I lost 10 birds a year, not that it made me sick that you guys loose 10 birds a year. So lets move on, shall we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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