BIG does

[woolybear]

Curious what's considered a big swamp donkey doe in your neck of the woods?

Last year my processor weighed my best one. I thought she was huge, but my confusion lies in if he said it was 115lbs or 150lbs? I couldn't even begin to estimate it. I've never bothered putting them on the scale. Alls I know is she dragged like 200.

[redkneck]

Biggest doe I've seen on a scale here is 140 lbs. Most does we take on our lease are 85-115 I'd say. In my part of the state it's mostly clay hills and it's not a heavily farmed area like the western part of the state along the river where they pack on a lot more weight.

[wtnhunt]

Anything over a 100 lbs dressed out weight is a pretty decent sized doe for these parts.

[woolybear]

That makes sence. Probably 115 dressed close to 150 on the hoof.

[ruttinbuc]

Most states have a doe harvest record:

With the long gun seasons, baiting and unlimited doe harvest the weights have come down by a lot!!!. I got the heaviest doe in my club of 170 hunters with a doe of 110 lbs. in 2007.

135 Pound Doe Club - Muzzleloader (through 2006-07 hunting season)

Rank Weight Year

County of

Harvest DMZ Hunter Hometown

1 165 1993 Hunterdon Joseph Giuffre, Jr. New Hope, PA

2 149 1994 Salem Richard E. Hinchman, Jr. Hancock's Bridge

3 146 1993 Monmouth Richard H. Short, III Brick

4 145 2002 Salem 27 Carol A. Pierson Woodstown

5 142 1993 Salem Norman Smiek Woodstown

5 142 1996 Salem Wayne Berner Cedarville

5 142 2001 Monmouth 16 Duane Carr Howell

6 141 1/2 1995 Salem Chris Mesogianes Salem

7 138 2004 Gloucester 35 Robert Chandler Sewell

8 137 1995 Salem Jonathan D. Cassidy Millville

8 137 1996 Salem Carl Olbrich Pittsgrove

8 137 2005 Gloucester 35 Barry Gandy Elsinboro

9 136 2003 Salem 35 Jeffrey W. Norton Pedricktown

135 Pound Doe Club - Archery (through 2006-07 hunting season)

Rank Score Year

County of

Harvest DMZ Hunter Hometown

1 160 2004 Somerset 14 Stan Lysenko Somerset

2 154 1999 Mercer Walter Burbela Hamilton

3 148 1997 Salem Jeffery E. Richey Woodstown

4 145 1997 Gloucester John Goetaski Bridgeport

5 144 1996 Mercer Frank Prato Hamilton

6 141 1992 Salem Albert H. Couch Woodstown

6 141 2006 Middlesex 14 Jerry Yaros Metuchen

7 138 1993 Hunterdon Louis Lombardi Wayne

8 136 1992 Gloucester James E. Fullmer Woodbury

8 136 2005 Cumberland 31 Jason Reed Millville

9 135 1/4 1994 Mercer Ken H. Taylor Rouyn-Noranda,

Quebec, Canada

135 Pound Doe Club - Shotgun (through 2006-07 hunting season)

Rank Weight Year

County of

Harvest DMZ Hunter Hometown

1 179 1992 Gloucester Kenneth E. Wilson, Jr. Gibbstown

2 160 1/2 1995 Salem Alan J. Stevens Salem

3 160 1998 Mercer Carmen J. Severino Groveville

3 160 1999 Salem Donald R. Ayers Woodstown

4 155 1990 Gloucester William DeHart Thorofare

4 155 1997 Gloucester Timothy Sopko Gibbstown

5 154 1991 Warren James Ecklyn Union Beach

5 154 2001 Salem 35 Richard K. Hughes Clayton

6 149 2006 Gloucester 35 James T. Cinalli Monroeville

7 145 1/2 1994 Salem Shawn T. Lee Franklinville

8 143 1991 Gloucester Thomas R. Lawler, Jr. Salem

8 143 1994 Gloucester Bruce Emerson Mickleton

9 142 1996 Morris Jeffrey Crawford Washington

9 142 1996 Mercer Daniel Rogers Hamilton Square

9 142 2000 Salem 25 Charles R. Wilson Pittman

10 141 1992 Cumberland Lynn Mooneyham Bridgeton

10 141 1993 Salem Christopher A. Young Elmer

10 141 2004 Warren 5 Ryan Stocker Blairstown

11 140 1990 Somerset Peter F. Scopa Arlington, MA

11 140 1993 Gloucester Albert A. Sexton, Jr. Blackwood

11 140 2005 Hunterdon 12 Louis E. Wieben Blakeslee, PA

12 139 1995 Warren Richard A. Smith Alpha

12 139 1998 Warren Joseph Guerino Nutley

13 137 1990 Somerset Richard L. Kupper Belle Mead

13 137 2005 Gloucester 35 Barry Gandy Elsinboro

14 136 1991 Salem Larry Kelley Carneys Point

14 136 1992 Salem Allan (Skip) Terres Glassboro

14 136 2001 Salem 35 Marty Flynn Glassboro

15 135 1990 Monmouth John A. Menna Red Bank

15 135 1993 Morris Julius R. Cope Mt. Freedom

15 135 1994 Salem George S. Moore, IV Millville

15 135 2002 Hunterdon 10 John F. Veres III South River

[woolybear]

Mike, where did you dig up that info?

[Ethan Givan]

Anything over 120 pound would be a big doe. Dont think I have heard of any over the 135 mark around here.

[wtnhunt]

That makes sence. Probably 115 dressed close to 150 on the hoof.

That is a good sized doe there Matt.

The doe Christina killed last year was a good sized doe for these parts. We have killed a couple over the years that were around 120 dressed, so yeah between 150 and 160 live weight for a mature doe. Kinda puts things in perspective since Christina was clearly smaller than her doe, she was probably around 105 in that pic, and wearing kinda bulky clothes.

[elkoholic]

A big old whitetail doe here would weigh over 200 lbs live weight, but most would be less then 150. The local game processor says that the average dressed weight is under 100 lbs and that even the bucks he sees brought in seldom dress over 115 lb. The buck I shot last year weighed in at 165+ and he thought it was huge while I thought it was on the small side. It appears that unless one actually weighs them (on an accurate scale) people think that the deer they kill are 50%, or more, heavier than they really are.

[Squirrelhunter91]

I shot a cow of a doe in 2008 during the tail end of our regular season. She went 140lb dressed.

She barely had any teeth left in her mouth and she was dry (no milk). We estimated her at over 6 years old. She had a ridiculously thick fat layer on her too but my Brenneke slug still found its way through it.

[redkneck]

She's one big heifer Joe!

[Shaun_300]

We see them up here up to around 150lbs dressed. 160 max. Most of them are 110-130 dressed.

[Rhino]

A big doe on our place in MS is anything in the 120 lb. or better range. Most of our big does fall in the 120 to 140 lb. range. Biggest one we ever put on the scale went 165 but that was an oddity. It's the only one that ever tipped the scales over 150. Those weights are live weights, not field dressed.

[hoosierhunter]

I shot a doe in Minnesota in 2004 that field dressed at 161 lbs. She was a toad for sure. Biggest doe in Indiana has been 115 lbs that I remember, but we don't weight all of them.

[ruttinbuc]

Mike, where did you dig up that info?

I found that on the NJ fish and game website, Matt. Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I went out to try and find one of those big girls, er, well ,any girl!

[JimT]

My wife shot a 133 pound dressed weight doe a couple years ago... nice one.

Edited September 15, 2010 by JimT

[clrj3514]

A good doe for here is around 100 pounds on the hoof.

[col3]

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Shot this girl last fall on the opener of rifle season, she dressed out about 140, thats one thing i love about the hunting here, we dont have the deer population alot of the states have, but our deer are big healthy buggers wtih lotsa meat on their bones

[dbHunterNY]

unfortunately i haven't shot many in the past. i know at my parent's farm there's got to be some pushing 170 lbs. No doe are allowed to be shot at my parent's farm or my great grandmother's farm. Most die from old age. They pretty much have all the alfalfa and corn they can eat.

[woolybear]

Some super does folks! Thanks for the pics to generate some thought and speculation.

unfortunately i haven't shot many in the past. i know at my parent's farm there's got to be some pushing 170 lbs. No doe are allowed to be shot at my parent's farm or my great grandmother's farm. Most die from old age. They pretty much have all the alfalfa and corn they can eat.

I would love to hear the reasoning behind this. To me, mature doe management is as healthy as buck regulations. Some of the young ones got to go too.

Edited September 16, 2010 by woolybear

[Dakota]

I've shot whitetail does about 130-140lbs live weight, but I shot a muley doe that went in between 150-175lbs live weight. Nothing like a big ol' swamp or riverbottom (muley) donkey to fill the freezer with some good meat, eh?

Dakota

[Ohiobucks]

We've got big ones:

We've also got some not so big ones (face blurred to protect Chris' identity......):

[Dawg]

Tom, you are one funny guy.

On the hoof, a big doe for these parts would be 125 lbs.

[woolybear]

I was hoping that pic was gonna show itself again in this thread. LMBO!

[aldridgem1]

Anything over 100 field dressed around here would be a really good doe. (Northern part of Kentucky)