hoosierhunter Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 I kill a fawn every year on purpose. Tasty and tender! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Not much meat on the little ones, have never killed a fawn. If I had to give up meat for the hungry I would try to fulfill that commitment with a nice big fat doe. Ditto! No, I would not shoot a fawn unless my own life depended on survival. Then meat is meat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clrj3514 Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 If the problem is urban control, shoot the old doe that keeps making more. On that note, if the fawn is a doe she has more years ahead of her to make more than the old doe. Personally, my only bow kill was a small deer which I didn't realize was so small. But first bow kill, what the heck! I wouldn't knowngly shoot a fawn though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 I got an urban hunt permit and they want us to kill as many deer as we can with no regard to sex (but does preferred) age, or antler size. First of all, if indiscriminant removal of deer was what I signed up to do, that is what I would do. However, you have piqued my interest with the term "urban hunt". It kind of conjures up some comical and/or distressing images of hunting in people's back yards. Or perhaps erecting a treestand over-looking someone's sidewalk. Or tracking a wounded deer with an arrow sticking out of it, through a dozen properties and finding a sandbox with a bunch of kids crying and screaming at the flopping deer in it's death-throes in their sandbox. What exactly does an urban hunt really look like and how do you avoid the potential social conflicts of hunting in a densely populated residential area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 What exactly does an urban hunt really look like and how do you avoid the potential social conflicts of hunting in a densely populated residential area? Got to find them in thick cover. May have to employ animals to get them out. Camo is a must. Then take your animal. No different than hunting in the sticks really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebohio Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 redneck that there is funny lol. kill all does that is what you signed up to do. do your best to make sure your not taking buttons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSeb53 Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 I got an urban hunt permit and they want us to kill as many deer as we can with no regard to sex (but does preferred) age, or antler size. Last night a big momma, I would guess 5year old or more and a fawn stepped out. Momma was a little on edge and stayed in the brush the whole time, but the fawn gave me several shot opportunities at 10-20 yards but I didn't take them. I saw several other deer but only fawns gave me good shots and I didn't take them. I'm thinking that when I go out Saturday morning that if I get another shot I'm going to take Bambi down. I'd really rather get me a big doe. We have to give the first deer to Hunters Feeding the Hungry anyway, so I guess a deer is a deer. This is a population control hunt so I does it really matter the age. So would you have shot Bambi? Anymore, where I hunt I would not shoot Bambi... I have become a more responsible hunter in a managing sense I suppose... but if I were in your situation, and there were hungry mouths to feed, I do believe I would be flingin' arrows... I really like what you're doin' and I wish you the best of luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Got to find them in thick cover. Camo is a must. Perhaps an effective ground stand would be a rusted out Volkswagon bus up on blocks. A good camo pattern would be petunias or something:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimT Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 I would. Better you do it for free then to pay people to do it for the city. The city of Portland here paid guys to snipe deer at night for population control. Totally stupid if you ask me when I would have gladly taken a couple for free or even if I had to pay a small fee to hunt there. Kinda funny how some types think deer are sooo cute until they eat their gardens,bushes etc. then they just have to go at any cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sskybnd Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Hunting vs population control can be two very different things. To be efficient at population control you have to have a different mindset. Having once killed 7 deer in a single day I can tell you it was work, not fun, but it needed to be done. i would have to agree with texan, your there to decrease the population, and we as hunters know thats our nexts year crop of deer, and we wouldnt take a fawn, but when your there to decrease the population any deer taken will do the job at hand, one thing about deer they are a renewable resorce, so i, under the job your there to do i wouldnt feel bad about taking a fawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 I have no experience with urban or suburban hunting, so I am simply asking a question here. Does the participation of bowhunters in population control activities in areas where non-hunters and antihunters are so heavily concentrated, ever cause situations that publicly damage the bowhunting image? I'm thinking of situations where a deer may be running around a neighborhood with an arrow sticking out of it, or a deer going through the death throes in a rather public fashion, or unfound wounded deer that eventually succumb to their wounds in a rather embarrassing location like a school playground, or the yard of a day-care center, etc. I know that most bowhunts are special hand-picked bowhunters and some even with qualifying activities in order to be picked as a participant. But I also understand that even with the most careful and highly skilled shooters, unhappy things can and do happen. So I guess I am curious as to whether getting involved in such public activities has caused any P.R. problems for us anywhere. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 If you want to severely drop the herd numbers shoot all the fawns and younger does you can. In a couple years there will be alot fewer deer. This happens naturally during heavy snows in the north and from severe predation. From the sounds of things that is the plan isn't it? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted September 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 Well, I guess my answer to the question was NO. I had 4 other opportunities to shoot the fawns, but the momma was just too close and I was trying to hold out for the momma's but it just never happend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 How can I put this.....thwack, thwack, thwack, thwack, thwack, thwack After I was out of arrows I would load them all up and feed some hungry folks. Its population control not ethical hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 Nope...can't bring myself to shoot a deer with a puppy dog face. It's never crossed my mind to shoot them. I just kick back and enjoy watching them skip around like little kids. ditto I did shoot one by mistake many, many moons ago, and it was utterly tasteless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 How can I put this.....thwack, thwack, thwack, thwack, thwack, thwack After I was out of arrows I would load them all up and feed some hungry folks. Its population control not ethical hunting. Well said Hutch. He's trying to prevent them from being buzzard food on the highway, not like he's on the stand at a club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntnfish Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 How can I put this.....thwack, thwack, thwack, thwack, thwack, thwack After I was out of arrows I would load them all up and feed some hungry folks. Its population control not ethical hunting. My thoughts exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger-Hunter Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Bambi was male, let us remember. Male deer are very difficult to distinguish in the field when they are "babies." They look and act like female deer. If I knew a deer was a 6 month old male - I doubt very highly that I would ever shoot it. But we are not all going to observe a deer for 20 minutes to see if it might be a male. A 6 month old female deer... depends on the situation. Late in the season - absolutely Seeing a lot of deer in the area - I doubt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Bambi was male, let us remember. Male deer are very difficult to distinguish in the field when they are "babies." They look and act like female deer. If I knew a deer was a 6 month old male - I doubt very highly that I would ever shoot it. But we are not all going to observe a deer for 20 minutes to see if it might be a male. A 6 month old female deer... depends on the situation. Late in the season - absolutely Seeing a lot of deer in the area - I doubt it We're talking about a special "urban hunt" where the object is to get rid of the deer population. It's not being done to manicure the herd or improve the herd. It is being done to eliminate the herd, or at least put a severe dent in them. It's not a sporting event, but rather a utilitarian job that needs to be done. I think when you sign up to help with that task, you have to be able to put aside your prejudices about gender and quality of the kill, and even the quality of the hunt, or back off and let someone else do the job that will actually do what is needed. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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