slugshooter Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 http://www.forbes.com/home/commerce/2004/07/20/cx_da_0720presidents.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Re: Forbes.com list that you guys won\'t like. Saw a somewhat different list just the other night on the news for most admired Presidents, in which Clinton was not even in the top 5. Think Kennedy, Roosevelt and Reagan were the top 3 if I remember right and Nixon was 5 tied with Carter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted February 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Re: Forbes.com list that you guys won\'t like. Thats the problem with lists like most admired or greatest or whatever, many of those lists are going to contain either Presidents that have come from recent history or have been talked about a lot and the next group comes from either early on Washington, Jefferson, or presided during a certain period of time, Lincoln, Roosevelt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Re: Forbes.com list that you guys won\'t like. Thinking that was an all time most admired list sluggo. Cannot remember if it was on CNN or NBC. Nixon was high on the list despite the troubles he got into, Carter was a a bit of a shocker to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted February 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Re: Forbes.com list that you guys won\'t like. It seems though that some people may form their opinions of a President after their terms. Carter I don't believe was much admired during his Presidency what with the oil embargoes and the Iranian hostage situation, sometimes Presidents are just a victim of a certain situation that they can't really control and they get the shaft because of it. Nixon was reviled during his term and it only got worse once he resigned and the immediate aftermath, but I think a lot of polls that come out with past Presidents ranking high in "popularity" or "admiration" reflect how favorably they are viewed after their terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Re: Forbes.com list that you guys won\'t like. [ QUOTE ] I agree 100% with you slugshooter! [/ QUOTE ] Wait! You read the forbes web site, but didnt read my post which that you complained that it was too much to read? Sounds like your just agreeing with slug because you two seemed to share the same views! BTW slug! I did read it, so what! The election is over, time to move on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Re: Forbes.com list that you guys won\'t like. Still dont see how Carter can be anywhere near the top of the list personally. Sure he is/was agreat humanitarian, but as President, he was one of the worst this country has ever seen, in yet he is admired. Not sure exactly how they come up with these lists, if they are from polls or an individuals "unbiased" research on those on the lists? By the way, bigbuck please debate and elaborate with us how you agree and with what part you agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Re: Forbes.com list that you guys won\'t like. [ QUOTE ] ''WRONG PLACE WRONG TIME DONT YOU AGREE!!!! [/ QUOTE ] NO!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Re: Forbes.com list that you guys won\'t like. In calling Orlan out, I think you are making a huge mistake, he has proven his points many times in the time he has been here and he has shared a great deal of knowledge with us. Carter was and is a great humanitarian. Under Carter as the leader of this country, our nation was not in its finest times. As far as a great President, absolutely not. I do not solely draw my conclusions on Carter based on Iran, but based upon the state of the nation under the Carter administration. As far as Presidents coming in at a bad time, what could be much worse than the mess that fell in President Bush's lap by your wonderful Clinton. What could be worse than having your nation attacked and taking over when the economy was in a downslide. Saying it was the wrong time is nothing more than a copout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted March 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Re: Forbes.com list that you guys won\'t like. The list that I posted on here has nothing to do with popularity or some other lame criteria, it has to do with how the particular president handled the economy , all the factors are listed and Clinton came out on top, in a conservative Republican owned and edited magazine. As far as 9/11 being Clinton's fault or Bush's fault, that argument is getting old. It was nobodies fault, except maybe our own complacency in thinking that nothing like that could happen on our soil. Bush had been President for 8 months by the time 9/11 rolled around, which, I think absolves Clinton of any responsiblity, but like I said, it wasn't anybodies fault. To blame Clinton for 9/11 eight months after he left office would be the same as blaming G.H.W. Bush for the first WTC bombing in 1993, Clinton had been President for all of month, so whose fault was it, was it Clinton's or Bush's, it was nobodies except our own complacency, and Osama Bin Laden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Re: Forbes.com list that you guys won\'t like. Dont think my reply blamed Clinton for the 9/11 attacks sluggo. Think you misinterepretted my reply. I was merely using that as an example of timing as bigbuck is saying Carter was in the presidency at the wrong time??? Being the leader of a country, you better be able to handle any situation at any time, that is part of the job. So I ask you bigbuck, when is the right time??? I guess you could also say Bush was there at the wrong time too, and that was the point I was trying to make. As far as the economy, whether democrats wish to admit it or not, the economy was in fact slowing and jobs were being cut well before Bush took office. Manufacturing jobs around here were being cut long before the elections ever took place when Bush beat Gore. Was that directly Clintons fault, or was it normal due to the oncoming election? As far as those dumb dumb decisions bigbuck, that is your opinion, and I seriously doubt you will expound on your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WILD_BILL Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Re: Forbes.com list that you guys won\'t like. Before you state how Dumb someone is, you may want to invest in a dictionary. [ QUOTE ] DUMB DUMB decieions [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] herd [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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