pointing_dogs_rule Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 I've used Muzzy four blades for a long time and have had good success. I went out and bought a 3 pack of Rage broadheads. (thought that they might have better aerodynamics for longer range shots such as antelope). The problem is that the blades (at least one) always seems to be in the "out" position. It seems like I am always checking to see if they are in the "locked back" postion. Am I doing something wrong or is this, just what the broadheads are about? Back to using the Muzzy's so I don't have to worry about the blades. Good luck to all the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcot2773 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 have heard a few people having problems with them opening in flight. have never seen it so i dont know how true it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bowhunter56 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 I have tried many heads over the past years, this year i did try the rage 2, I shot 2 doe, and was very impressed with the damage they did, both deer went less than 30 yards. What I have found..i had one head also that would open easily by tapping the arrow shaft with my finger, i looked at the o-ring and tried to rotate the ring, no telling how long these heads set in the package with the blades setting on the o-ring at the same spot, so what i did was remove the o-ring on the head that the blades opened easily and put a new o-ring on the head, then i had no problem. I will be using Rage 2 from now on, they fly great, cut great, do a lot of damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abear491 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 I switched to rages this year and I haven't had a problem with them what so ever. I killed a doe and i hit her a little far back and she made it 75 yards at most. She bled really well. The blades will open if you catch them against something but on my bow hanger i make sure they are locked and haven't had one problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinhood Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 yea a buddy of mine switched to the slicktricks cause he lost a buck from both sides not opening. Just dont want to worry about that while in the tree. So i stick to the ones i trust and thats a thunderhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldridgem1 Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 I shot Muzzy 3 blades untill this year and i switched to rages. Yea they do like to open but you just have to pay attention and make sure they are snapped in the o ring. Ive shot two deer this year with the rages and dont think i will ever shoot anything else. They do a number on deer. Just make sure the blades are shut and you are good to go. I think they are well worth the forty dollars for three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 The problem is that the blades (at least one) always seems to be in the "out" position. It seems like I am always checking to see if they are in the "locked back" postion. Am I doing something wrong or is this, just what the broadheads are about? That is the exact same reason why I sold my Rage 2-blades. :no: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kid Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 these blades dont open up in flight, like said above if they come out while walking or what not just replace the o ring it will fix the problem, have had nothing go wrong with these broadheads every single one I shot has opened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bghunter777 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 The Blades do not open in flight! occasionally when taking out of you quiver the blade will open. It takes all of 5 seconds to make sure the broadhead is tight and the blades are in place when you get to your stand. As far as the post earlier about mechanical not opening. I am always amused by these posts. How would you possibly know if the buck is not recovered many heads are designed when the arrow slows abrubtly to stop the blades can slam back into place upon stopping giving the appearance it didnt open. But they always open its like a door on a hinge you push on it and it has to open! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoshenGrunter Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 I used rage three years ago when I had a xbow. The power was too much and they opened in flight. I ended up switching back to a compound three years ago. I love the rage 2 blade. Never lost a deer with it. Change out the o-ring as soon as you get them though. The ones in the package have been there for who-knows-how-long. Just a tip- I carry 3 arrows tipped with rage 2's and 2 tipped with G5 montecs with me. I use the montecs in case i go on a stalk. The rage's arent great for spot-n-stalk. just my .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 You have to check them and make sure they are pushed under the O-Ring after you pull them out of the quiver. I shot one buck last year quartering away but only one blade deployed (or at least it appeared that way looking at the entry/exit holes). He only made it 40 yards, but I went back to fixed blades anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msman825 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 I take a piece of sewing thread and run it threw the slots on the blade below the Oring are right above the pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoorsmen1 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 I use the rage 2's, and will never use anything else. ya just gotta make sure that before you shoot, the blades are nice and tight in the o-ring. have shot 3 deer with them and none made it farther than 40 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 I have tried many heads over the past years, this year i did try the rage 2, I shot 2 doe, and was very impressed with the damage they did, both deer went less than 30 yards. What I have found..i had one head also that would open easily by tapping the arrow shaft with my finger, i looked at the o-ring and tried to rotate the ring, no telling how long these heads set in the package with the blades setting on the o-ring at the same spot, so what i did was remove the o-ring on the head that the blades opened easily and put a new o-ring on the head, then i had no problem. I will be using Rage 2 from now on, they fly great, cut great, do a lot of damage. what he said! yea you'll see the indentation in the O-ring in that case. Make sure that notch is seated well behind the o-ring after you rotate the ring and you're fine. I only have them open when I catch or brush the head against something. Honestly, the stuff about them not opening is hard to believe. If they were shot and gummed up with dirt or a blade got bent then I could see that happening. If anything they open up too easy, but that's the idea. They use less KE to open, so more goes toward terminal performance. Last year I kept a couple arrows in my quiver where I wrapped the heads once around in double sided fletch tape for still hunting. I still got pass thrus with them. I didn't bother with that this year for whatever reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldridgem1 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 The Blades do not open in flight! occasionally when taking out of you quiver the blade will open. It takes all of 5 seconds to make sure the broadhead is tight and the blades are in place when you get to your stand. As far as the post earlier about mechanical not opening. I am always amused by these posts. How would you possibly know if the buck is not recovered many heads are designed when the arrow slows abrubtly to stop the blades can slam back into place upon stopping giving the appearance it didnt open. But they always open its like a door on a hinge you push on it and it has to open! Agree. Simple as that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcot2773 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 i have had mechanicals not open. the o ring never separated. still had a pass through but due to shot placement what would have been been a lung and liver hit turned into just one lung and the blood stopped. never recovered that deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 The Blades do not open in flight! ! Wrong! If I remember correctly, didn't a Rage open in flight for Bill Winke at the ATA show a year or so ago causing him to lose a competition. There was a huge discussion about it over on AT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 I used the 2 blade rage and they did ok. I will not be using them anymore. I lost a couple of pigs with them and they always are coming open in my quiver. I never have gotten the huge damge that eveyone is talking about I get a nice hole but I am not impressed. I used the blood runner this year by nap and it put a heck of a hole in a buck I shot. Probably just where I have been hitting the deer with the rage. I usally shoot them a little high because of the steep angle from the treestand. I just dont like the rage 2 blades or 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2hunt Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I've shot variations of spitfires (regular, pro, edge, maxx) for the last 4 years. Never was a mechanical broadhead user before that... now I cant imagine not shooting a spitfire. Killed a bunch of stuff with them and almost always have a passthru, plus good and short bloodtrails. The two animals I shot this year I got to watch go down within 40 yards. Love 'em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I think I tried a little of everything over the years with the only ones not doing the job were the ones that didn't hit where they were supposed to. :turned: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billkay Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Switched to mechs years ago and Rage's about 4 years ago. Simply rotating the O- ring will fix the problem with the blades not remaining seated. There is no reason I can think of to use fixed blades again. If you have problems with the blades opening in the quiver, maybe you need to use a quiver designed for mechs, I use the magnetized Octane but the quivers with 2 sets of shaft holders and no foam would work as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointing_dogs_rule Posted November 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Good info Billkay on the arrow holder. Since I always take a backpack I was thinking of a cardboard tube to hold the arrows instead of the quiver in the backpack. good luck to all the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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