ALAN Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 any one know why fords started doing this? you want gas in a new ford you just pull up open the fuel door and stick the nozzle into it and start fueling, if you try to poke your finger down it it wont budge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 any one know why fords started doing this? you want gas in a new ford you just pull up open the fuel door and stick the nozzle into it and start fueling, if you try to poke your finger down it it wont budge A better mousetrap....Probably to cut costs by coming up with a way to beat the use of the cap. I'd be willing to bet the cost of that cap is still in the price of the vehicle, somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETMGROW Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 (edited) I haven't checked one of these engineering marvels out yet. You can bet though, they will not be trouble free. I am suspicious replacement will require complete filler neck replacement. We replace enough of these already because of rust conditions. Check the price of some Chrysler mini van filler tubes if you want sticker shock. These things look like french horns and hover around $400. retail! This is a tough sell but necessary to get the vehicle through emission inspection. Not a 5 minute job to change out either. No doubt Ford did this to prevent fuel vapors from refueling getting into the atmosphere. I wouldn't be surprised to see all the mfgs. follow suit. Probably an EPA mandate. Lynn Edited December 19, 2010 by LETMGROW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RackBlaster Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 I am a tech. at a ford dealer and I am not sure why the change , but I think its a good thing. They have been using this design for over a year now and we have not had any problems at my dealer, yet. We constantly are getting people in with a ck engine light on and it leads to people not tightening their gas cap or not putting it on at all. This eliminates that totally, not to mention its almost impossible for someone to dump something down your filler neck. Less problems with a vehicle = a happy customer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALAN Posted December 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 i like how they thought of that though.. just pull up to pump open fuel door start fueling..at first i wasnt too crazy about it till my dad brought a truck and showed me you can not stick your finger in it nor anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 My question is does it keep water out? Either rain water or car wash water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Not too sure if I like the idea or not. I was surprised when my buddy showed me on his new F150. I guess as long as it can keep water out and vapors in, good. Interested to see how many EVAP leak codes come out because of them in future though. Also wondering how the emissions tests will check these. We're lucky in the county we live in there's no emissions tests required, but a mile up the road where the next county is, emissions tests are required. We do them at our dealer and part of the test is pressurizing the gas cap to check for leaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 We constantly are getting people in with a ck engine light on and it leads to people not tightening their gas cap or not putting it on at all. This happened to me about 3 weeks ago. Stopped at Autozone and plugged in their code computer and BINGO. Tightened her up a click and the light was gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 I haven't had any problems with mine. At first I was kind of skeptical about it but it's growing on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washi Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 How does the filler neck go in if you can't make it open any other way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RackBlaster Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 How does the filler neck go in if you can't make it open any other way? It's specifically made for the size of the nozzle on the pump , there are two buttons on the sides of the filler neck opening when the nozzle goes in the buttons are simultaneously pressed and releases the flap and allows the fuel to enter. Anything smaller or larger will not allow the flap to open. The vehicle also comes with a special adapter that goes in the filler neck to accommodate the various size nozzles on gas cans in case you run out of gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) No doubt Ford did this to prevent fuel vapors from refueling getting into the atmosphere. I wouldn't be surprised to see all the mfgs. follow suit. Probably an EPA mandate. Lynn Yep. Automakers constantly under the gun to do this kind of stuff. I've looked at the new design, and it does look like it will let more contaminates/moisture in, but I guess that's negligible, but still, if you live on a dirt road, it has to let a lot of stuff go through over the years. Edited December 29, 2010 by redkneck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matq2gs Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Wife and I bought a 2010 Ford Fusion and it has the no cap setup. I like it and I think it is basically like the NASCAR filler tube. Had the car for 1 1/2 years now and no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETMGROW Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Change! It is probably human nature to resist change. It sure would be nice if people [ in this case, Ford ] told the public WHY they were changing a design. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Yep, like I always say and curse GM about sometimes. They have something that works perfectly fine for years, then they change it, making it more of a pain to work on and works worse than the last design. Then the crap that has problems and needs improving, they leave alone. Don't get it sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointing_dogs_rule Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 I am a tech. at a ford dealer and I am not sure why the change , but I think its a good thing. They have been using this design for over a year now and we have not had any problems at my dealer, yet. We constantly are getting people in with a ck engine light on and it leads to people not tightening their gas cap or not putting it on at all. This eliminates that totally, not to mention its almost impossible for someone to dump something down your filler neck. Less problems with a vehicle = a happy customer. Is that why my F-250 gas cap warning light has been on for the last 2 months!!!! Drives me nuts seeing that icon. good luck to all the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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