LifeNRA Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 Washington -- California Sen. Dianne Feinstein renewed one of Washington's long- running and most bitterly fought battles Friday, saying she will introduce legislation seeking to reinstate the federal assault weapons ban that expired in September after 10 years. Gun control has been a signature issue for Feinstein since she arrived in the Senate in 1993. But the odds she faces to pass the weapons ban in the current Congress are probably steeper than they were in 1993, when the Senate narrowly approved the ban, or last March, when it passed 52-47 before dying in the body. November's election increased the 100-member Senate's number of Republicans from 51 to 55, and there are at least four new solid votes against Feinstein's proposal. In the House, gun control advocates face an even tougher time because Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., and Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, have said they won't let the renewal legislation come up for a vote. While President Bush said he would sign renewal legislation if Congress passed it last year, critics said he never did anything to encourage passage, fearing such a move would upset his conservative base as he sought re-election. "We're cautiously optimistic,'' said National Rifle Association spokesman Andrew Arulanandam, that the Feinstein bill won't pass the Senate this year. "But we recognize the fact that this is Washington, D.C., and we take nothing for granted.'' In a statement, Feinstein said she hoped Republican leaders would help pass the assault weapons law again. "This time, I hope for the safety of all Americans, President Bush, Senate Majority Leader (Bill) Frist and Speaker Hastert will help re-enact this important legislation," she said. In disclosing her decision, Feinstein cited the shooting deaths Thursday of two Los Angeles city workers by a co-worker apparently armed with an AK-47 rifle as an example of why the law is needed. "Once again, we've seen the tragic consequence of the ready availability of assault weapons throughout our society,'' she said. The NRA and its allies are so opposed to the assault weapons law that they scuttled their own pet legislation last March that would have protected gun manufacturers against liability lawsuits. The assault weapons ban, offered by Feinstein as an amendment to the liability legislation, was approved as were amendments closing a loophole on gun show sales and one requiring trigger locks, which was sponsored by Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif. After those amendments were approved, the overall bill was defeated, killing the effort to renew the assault weapons ban. The gun liability legislation has been reintroduced and again provides a possible vehicle for the Feinstein and Boxer amendments. The proposed ban covers 19 types of semiautomatic weapons and ammunition clips of more than 10 rounds. But it permits guns that were around before the ban. Critics such as the NRA say the law was ineffective during its decade on the books, in part because it permitted slightly altered versions of many of the weapons to stay on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! She will never give up. Here not all that long back the Memphis police dept got on the news pushing for support to ban "assault weapons" like the SKS which they claim is responsible for many deaths on the streets. These morons just dont get it. With someone who does not value human life, what difference does it make if it is a semi auto or a bolt deer rifle or a samurai sword or a pitchfork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! "We're cautiously optimistic,'' said National Rifle Association spokesman Andrew Arulanandam, that the Feinstein bill won't pass the Senate this year. "But we recognize the fact that this is Washington, D.C., and we take nothing for granted.' ---------------------------------------------------------------------- That lines gives the reason that no guns should ever be taken from us. Who can trust a bunch of teo faced politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted March 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! [ QUOTE ] that is too much to read! [/ QUOTE ] Or too much to understand??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] that is too much to read! [/ QUOTE ] Or too much to understand??? [/ QUOTE ] LOL. Great repsonse there bigbuck Cannot take the time to read the post, but feel the need to reply. Think we are still waiting to hear some of that great debating from bigbuckshooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted March 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! [ QUOTE ] Great repsonse there bigbuck [/ QUOTE ] You calling me BigBuck there Will? LMBO!!!!! Its ok!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] that is too much to read! [/ QUOTE ] Or too much to understand??? [/ QUOTE ] LOL @ life. Great repsonse there bigbuck Cannot take the time to read the post, but feel the need to reply. Think we are still waiting to hear some of that great debating from bigbuckshooter. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You calling me BigBuck there Will? LMBO!!!!! Its ok!!! [/ QUOTE ] LOL, Nope. Is this better ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! Taking away from an old song I used to love and putting a spin on it...but I just feel compelled to say: I'd like to spit some beechnut in that gals eye and hit her with my 4 wheel drive... I know it don;t go that way, but I feel I would get put in jail for sayiing I wanted to shoot a senator.. Her and Boxer need a good punch in the nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! Probably the latter, heck, I been on here over a year now and I still take crap for my views, although it has gotten less and less, as far as personal attacks go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted March 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! [ QUOTE ] Do you guys have a problem with me or something or just some one to pick on? [/ QUOTE ] No I dont! But I do when you dont read the post, but you feel you are forced to make a comment! After all, thats what this is for! Please read the post and make a decision for yourself. Spend the time to read it before you make a comment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted March 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! [ QUOTE ] ok Life NRA You seem to know alot! [/ QUOTE ] No I dont! But I find it hard to believe, that your a hunter/gun owner, and you cant see that the democratic party wants do nothing more than remove your guns! But it ok for Feinstein or Frankenstien to carry one in her purse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! [ QUOTE ] If you would here me debate in person i think you might be surpried!!! [/ QUOTE ] Why can you not bring some of that intellectual debate to this forum instead of making short one line responses which often do not even relate to the topic at hand? I dont know you, dont have a problem with you. Dont think I have made any attacks really. If you feel I have, sorry you have taken it that way. Just think you are being a bit redundant in your response that you are a "big time democrat". This is a political forum and I am a very straight forward type of person as is apparent are many others in here. If you take mine or others responses as personal attacks, maybe this room is not for you. I think it is safe to say all of us in here enjoy a great debate and none of us see eye to eye on every issue that comes up. Personally I enjoy reading different responses even if I dont agree with them. Perfect exapmple, I think Sluggo and I rarely ever really agree on much, but think he is still a pretty good guy and bet if we ever met we could probably talk all day long about politics and hunting. Even though he brings a different view to many discussions, he elbaorates and gives us his insight, which often to me at least is pretty interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! So far on all your posts, you have shown "0" proof of your points! I am still waiting for something real earth shattering to come from you!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! ....never mind.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted March 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! [ QUOTE ] Life NRA I have been hunting sence i was 4 years old. We democrats dont want to take away gun rights. We just want to make sure that everyone that purces a gun has a background check!!! [/ QUOTE ] No just 90% of democrats want to remove my guns! I didnt say all! Its the democratic politicians like Feinstien, Schumer, Clintons, and that BIG OLD WIND BAG Kennedy, and KERRY. 95% of all democratic politicians want your guns BBS! Face it! ITS FACT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! Life is right. The democratic party in general is full of those who have intentions of removing our rights to keepand bear arms. Some might not want you to believe it for obvious reasons, while others are very straight forward and continue to push for anti gun support. Bigbuck, you need to wake up and realize what has taken place in other parts of the world. Registering all weapons is the FIRST step in the removal of guns from law abiding citizens such as myself and many others right here on these forums. As for proving your point, lets hear some good tangible support for your claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! [ QUOTE ] Registering all weapons is the FIRST step in the removal of guns from law abiding citizens such as myself and many others right here on these forums. As for proving your point, lets hear some good tangible support for your claims. [/ QUOTE ] who said anything about registering anything?? Background checks are a good thing no matter who wants to scream about it, I have personally watched several convicted felons try and purchase firearms from gun dealers, that background check kept the weapon out of the hands of a criminal, granted they prob found one on the street later,but there is little way of stopping that. Registation is one thing..background checks are a whole other deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! [ QUOTE ] who said anything about registering anything?? Background checks are a good thing no matter who wants to scream about it, I have personally watched several convicted felons try and purchase firearms from gun dealers, that background check kept the weapon out of the hands of a criminal, granted they prob found one on the street later,but there is little way of stopping that. Registation is one thing..background checks are a whole other deal. [/ QUOTE ] I have to agree with you there Carbon. I do like the background checks a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! [ QUOTE ] Probably the latter, heck, I been on here over a year now and I still take crap for my views, although it has gotten less and less, as far as personal attacks go. [/ QUOTE ] It has gotten less and less on you sluggo because you actually have opinions and can express them in an eloquent manner. BBS, on the other hand, just comes in talking about 'knowing his stuff' but never seems to enlighten us. Who knows, if he's such a political genius, maybe he'd cause some of us to change our ways and get us on the road to reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! Have to agree..BBS your gonna have to elaborate more and give way more info if you want to get things going in here bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! I don't really think that having a National Gun Registry is the right step, but I in no way do not believe that the government does not know that I have 2 pistols, a shotgun and a .22. I would bet money that they know I have the weapons regardless of what they are or are not supposed to do with the 4473. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! Listen up BBS... NO ONE DOES!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! [ QUOTE ] I put out enough info for you guys to understand my view. SORRY IF YOU DONT THINK SO CARBON HUNTER!! [/ QUOTE ] Hey bud most in here will say that I back up the underdog under most sit. I'm a registered Dem. so i dont want to hear the you must be republican BS. Just saying from past time in here that you had better back up fact opinion with fact or you will never see an inch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! Aaron, I do agree with you on background checks and I think they are needed as well, however I think bigbuck fails to see the direction many in the democratic party are headed in. Feinstein, who this post is about unless I am mistaken, has promoted and pushed for anti gun legislation. Supporting those such as Feinstein only supports the eventual removal of our rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Re: Two-Faced Feinstien At It Again!!! Alright william, just wasnt shure where registration came from, when it comes to that I have to agree with you, If i havnt done anything wrong there is no reason the goverment or anyone else should know what i have in ym gun case. Maybe Automatic weapons, but they know who has those already due to the Class III FFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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