JJL Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 The origin of the phrase...."Cold enough to freeze the balls of a brass monkey". In the heyday of sailing ships, all war ships and many freighters carried iron cannons. Those cannons fired round iron cannon balls. It was necessary to keep a good supply near the cannon. However, how to prevent them from rolling about the deck? The best storage method devised was a square-based pyramid with one ball on top, resting on four resting on nine, which rested on sixteen. Thus, a supply of 30 cannon balls could be stacked in a small area right next to the cannon. There was only one problem...how to prevent the bottom layer from sliding or rolling from under the others. The solution was a metal plate called a 'Monkey' with 16 round indentations. However, if this plate were made of iron, the iron balls would quickly rust to it. The solution to the rusting problem was to make 'Brass Monkeys.' Few landlubbers realize that brass contracts much more and much faster than iron when chilled. Consequently, when the temperature dropped too far, the brass indentations would shrink so much that the iron cannonballs would come right off the monkey. Thus, it was quite literally, 'Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.' All this time, you thought that was an improper expression, didn't you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 yep, i did. and i've often said here that it's so cold i had to bring in my brass monkey. that's interesting, jim. hey, it's been too long since the forum members were treated to a view of gods country. got any pictures handy? how are those big golf course bucks doing??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Something tells me I heard this before somewhere. Still a funny phrase to use though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Nope, actually knew that with my nautical background. I've also heard it was in reference to the brass gimbals next to a compass. I can attest, those things get cold quick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIwhitetailhunter Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 I can honestly say I've learned something today. And from here on out, that phrase won't be nearly as funny to me anymore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebohio Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 i can skip watching the discovery channel today. and all this time ive been worried about those poor brass monkeys. thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA_RIDGE_RUNNER Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 For those of us nautically disinclined we will continue to use the phrase as we see fit the rest of you can swab the poop deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Yea, I'll have to store that tidbit of information in case I ever audition for and get to play on Jeopardy. I can see it now: Category; Old Time Navy for $1000, Alex! Question: On old sailing warships an indented plate called a brass monkey was used to keep this from happening BAANNNT!!! RB What is; um uh...freezing your ---- off,,err, your cannon balls off,, err, keeping the ships balls from freezing? Cannon balls.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Actually, although that is the origin of where the phrase first came from, it is used today simply as a slang term, because very few people actually know the true background of the phrase. If most folks don't really know that background, and yet still use the phrase, then it is taken at face value, and has a whole new meaning to most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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