PotashRLS Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 I am working with a first - time bowhunter gal. She is shooting 32 lbs from a new BowTech Soldier bow. We have 75gr. Muzzys on her little carbon arrows and are getting good flight but poor penetration. I have some other ideas for her but thought I'd see first hand what others are using. I'd appreciate knowing what you other folks with light set ups shoot and what kind of results you are getting. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted January 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Bump :angel1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 My wife shoots a 40 pound (minimum here) Parker bow with 25 1/4 inch Maxima 250 arrows and montec 100 grain and has no problems with penetration. She shoots to 40 yards max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted January 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 With all due respect, 40 yards seems awful far for a 40lb bow to penetrate well. That surprises me a bit. How are the blood trails with the Montecs? I am considering 85gr. Muzzy Phantoms for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) When I lived in Colorado my friend's wife and daughters shot elk with 40 pound Browning bows and short Gold Tip 5575 with montecs. He kept the shots at 20 yards though. Lots of blood if you sharpen them and keep them touched up. They are sharp enough out of the package but I touch them up and keep them touched up. Here's a 3555 Gold Tip that traveled 42 yards and had a 125 grain montec on it. I had a friend back in the good old days (1960's) kill a moose with his Bear recurve at 45 pounds and it didn't sling an arrow anywhere near as fast as these little compounds do today. Edited January 7, 2011 by m gardner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted January 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Nice arrow Mark. I see the 4 or 5 inch vanes on it, most likely giving her the good broadhead flight. I personally am not a big fan of little 2" vanes. I still shoot 5" feathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 We changed to Blazers on the Maximas because they flattened out the trajectory of the arrow considerably so I suspect they are flying faster at longer ranges now. I'd get your friend up to 40 pounds draw ASAP and shoot as heavy an arrow as is practical (probably 300 to 350 grains) with a good cut on contact broadhead and be happy. The 5575 Gold Tip with a 100 grain tip wiegh about 340 grains at 25 1/4 inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DropTine49 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 As far as broad heads go, Rage has the 40ke kinetic energy broadheads that are designed for short draw lengths and light weights. http://www.ragebroadheads.com/Products/40-KE-Broadhead.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted January 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 As far as broad heads go, Rage has the 40ke kinetic energy broadheads that are designed for short draw lengths and light weights. http://www.ragebroadheads.com/Products/40-KE-Broadhead.php I've seen the Rage 40ke heads. However, I don't think switching to an expandable would be a viable option when we are having penetration issues with a 75 gr. Muzzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Look at the 85gr Magnus Stingers. These are a COC head, and are EXTREMELY sharp. I would recommend these to anyone shooting a light poundage bow. I'm curious, when you say poor penetration, what are you basing that on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcot2773 Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Those rage heads were designed for that light powndage low energy bows. on the flip side, you gain speed with a lighter arrow but lose terminal velocity. so i would experiment with it and find a happy medium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Look at the 85gr Magnus Stingers. These are a COC head, and are EXTREMELY sharp. I would recommend these to anyone shooting a light poundage bow. I'm curious, when you say poor penetration, what are you basing that on? Best solution for low poundage bows very forgiving any 2 blade broadhead will do what you are wanting Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I'm curious, when you say poor penetration, what are you basing that on? She shot a doe fawn hitting it in the back part of the ribs. She stated the shot was not far enough forward but not in the guts. The arrow was sticking out of the deer (barely hanging on apparently) as it ran off. We found 5 drops of blood toward the beginning of the trail. We never could trail it because of the other deer tracks and trails. We did not find the arrow and suspect it fell out into the deep fluffy snow. We are not sure though. We canvassed the entire area (over 40 acres) and found no sign of a bed or other blood. I want to explore getting the most penetration possible out of the bow setup she has. We already set a goal of pulling 40lbs for next summer. Though her arrows fly great with the 75gr. Muzzys, we may refletch her arrows to a helical for additional arrow stabilization when going to a cut on contact head. It will be an off season work in progress. Please feel free to add any further thoughts and advice. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Yep, I'd go with a good COC head. Magnus has a lifetime warranty o their heads, shoot one through a deer, hit a rock? They will replace it. Shoot one as a practice head, want a new one, send it back, they'll replace it. I bet I ain't bought any new heads in years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I've seen the Rage 40ke heads. However, I don't think switching to an expandable would be a viable option when we are having penetration issues with a 75 gr. Muzzy. They are a much smaller cutting diameter than the normal ones and they're cut on contact. My wife to be uses them shooting a youth diamond edge bow just fine. I do think the best you'll get is a Stinger Buzzcut, phantom, or something similar. that trocar tip on the muzzy isn't really cut on contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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