victor3ranger Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Anyone here reload their 308 168gr with IMR powder?? If so, which powder and how much works best for you? I have a friend who bought a Rem 700 SPS. He is wanting me to reload some 168gr loads for him with IMR powder, just wondering if anyone here has had any luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Personally I would go to IMR's website. You can find all of the data you need there. Its hard to get reloading data on an open forum due to the risk involved. I just looked that load up and there are something like 5-different IMR powders used for reloading that bullet (HPBT im guessing). If you already use IMR powders you may already have the right powder for the job.. http://www.imrpowder.com/basic-manual-inquiry.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleA Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Welcome to the Realtree forums victor3ranger. I remember way back when I used to use IMR-4895 with 168's, these days I burn up many ponds of either Hodgdon Varget or Alliant's Reloder 15 In my 308's as both offer excellent results. In the IMR line of powders, 4895 has a great reputation as being "the" powder. Good luck and stay safe by only using published data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor3ranger Posted January 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Thanks guys, I will work up a load from the tables on the IMR site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 For the IMR side, 4895 and 4064 are the most popular. If your friend is going to shoot long range, drop the 168 gr and go with 175 gr. They are much better past 600 yards. A decent load of 4064 or RL15 and you are set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 If your friend is going to shoot long range, drop the 168 gr and go with 175 gr. Ahh don't know where you get the data for this, but it is wrong. The 168gr bthp has the lowest ballistic coeffecient for the .308 loads. That is why almost exclusively the shooter's at Camp Perry shoot this bullet and what Swat and Hrt team's across the nation use this as the primary sniper round. The US Military would also use this round, but hp bullets are against the rules that govern ground warfare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleA Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Dont want to get too far off topic but here it goes.... If your friend is going to shoot long range, drop the 168 gr and go with 175 gr. Ahh don't know where you get the data for this, but it is wrong. The 168gr bthp has the lowest ballistic coeffecient for the .308 loads. :no:That is why almost exclusively the shooter's at Camp Perry shoot this bullet and what Swat and Hrt team's across the nation use this as the primary sniper round. The US Military would also use this round, but hp bullets are against the rules that govern ground warfare. I agree with AJ that the 175 is a better bullet for ranges longer than 600 yards. Given the same weight, it's the bullet with with the highest ballistic coeffecient that shoots flatter and has less wind drift not the one with the lowest as you suggested. Even with an initial lower velocity, the 175 with it's higher BC will do better than the 168gr at distance. Of course there are exceptions to the rule. Sierra used to be the holy grail when it came to match bullets but in todays market there are several makers that produce very high BC bullets, noteably Barnes make some of the very best high BC pills. The Lapua 155 Scenar equals Sierra's 175 match king but can be driven alot faster so it can reach to 1K and still be super sonic, something that the 168gr is "iffy" on. Dont get me wrong, the 168gr is a great bullet out to around 600 yds but the 155gr and 175 gr outrun it at 1000. PS, great to see your still alive and will AJ :cowboy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 For the IMR side, 4895 and 4064 are the most popular. If your friend is going to shoot long range, drop the 168 gr and go with 175 gr. They are much better past 600 yards. A decent load of 4064 or RL15 and you are set. AJ! Still lurking I see... good to see you bud.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor3ranger Posted January 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Which bullet would be the best?? I was leaning toward the Sierra Matchking but what other match type bullets?? Are there any made that are better than the Sierra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangunnr Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 RL15, 155 Scenar Kiss, find pressure and rock on. If a typical Rem throat, seat to mag box restraints. hangunnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleA Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Which bullet would be the best? There is no way to tell what is "best" for your needs sitting behind this key board. What works for you might not for me and vice versa. We can only suggest some things. Yes, there are certain bullets and powder combinations that are somewhat universal across the board. Reloder 15/Varget and Sierra 175 and 168's can usually be coaxed into shooting well in just about any 308 Win. It;s been said that if your rifle will not shoot Federal line of Gold Medal factory 308 win loads it wont shoot anything. These are loaded with 168 and 175gr SMK's. Back to handloading.... There are quite a few choices to choose from if you're talking match bullets, it might take a bit of trial and error. For the most part Nosler's Custom Competition .308 bullets are a fraction cheaper than the Sierra Match Kings. Hornady make's the A-Max target line which is gaining me favor. Then there are the Berger and Lapua brands as well as small custom makers all of which are going to have better BC's than the afore mentioned but also will run you more money. Some experimenting with the OAL is to be expected also as some of the bullets like a jump to the lands and some dont. Your individual barrel and twist will most likely diciate the bullet it prefers be it a 168,155,175,190, 208 etc. Not written in stone but a 1:10 twist is most likely going to handle the heavier 175gr better than a 1:12. The 168 is a happy medium for both twist. IMHO Unless you are shooting competitions and or really serious about the absolute flattest , wind bucking super pill I would be content with a happy medium with preformance/cost. You didnt mention the skill level but practice makes perfect so economy plays a big part. No need to be shooting something exspensive through the learning curve. Again, unless you are shooting over 600yds, there isnt a whole lot of difference between the 155,168,175, they will all do as well as you can shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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