Thought I had some pts for the team today...Shot a 5 pt at 815 am and tracked him till noon and lost the blood trial in the rain...very disappointted to say the least...I grunted him right in and a spike can in from the opposite direction of this 5pt and the 5pt layed his ears back and his hair was standing up and he snort/weezed at him(1st time I ever heard that,(pretty awesome) other than on hunting shows)...the spike came walking by my tree at 10 yds...then the 5pt followed...it was a quartering away shot at 15 yds...the arrow didn't pass thru...think it stuck in the left shoulder...ran about 40 yds and the arrow broke off...still about 13 inches of arrow inside...tracked him for about 3/4 of a mile and he never layed down...sorry guys...still have a week yet with the bow...then rifle season after thanksgiving...bin seeing alot of bucks...the rut is definately on here in Pa...cold weather this week should be good...