Also, on a sidenote, i shot my optima with some Blackhorn 209 powder and 250 grain hornady sst's.......awesome. No fouled barrel to deal with and boy is that powder hot! I hit an old tree that was on the ground and you could see where the sst went it and was pushing wood out of the back and the tree was cracked down the middle the length of the bullet channel. It was a good size tree too. I cannot wait for gun season!