carbonhunter Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 The post awhile back about the SD farmer shooting into the geese to scare them off. He was actually shooting at a decoy spread and he killed a guy?? well here is what haooened Rancher faces endangerment charge in death published: 01/29/05 A Martin rancher who accidentally killed a Custer man has been charged with a misdemeanor, negligent endangerment. Jay Torgerson, 39, was hunting geese Dec. 3 near Martin when he was shot by a high-powered rifle. The Bennett County state's attorney, Tim Vander Heide, said Brad Johnson, 51, was negligent in the shooting, but it wasn't grounds for a manslaughter charge. Johnson said he thought the hunter's decoys were geese and he wanted to scare them off his father's land. He could receive up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? Wow..a year in jail and $1000 fine seems a little light doesnt it? Hey, you wouldnt happen to have a link to the original story would you? I missed it somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? Wow, couldn't he have scared them off by shooting OVER them? Was the other guy trespassing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanH Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? Man you sure wanna wonder about a story like this! I always wonder if it was on Purpose or just pure accident! I always have those thoughts in the back of my head! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? if ya ask me, i think thats kind of a light charge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffett1 Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? When I used to work at the golf course over the summer months we used to chase the geese with golf carts. But I probably shouldn't go into all of that, or the other things.....'Lord I apologize....' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archerjg Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? That seems like a real light sentence for shooting someone. Archerjg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? 1 year in jail and 1000 dollar fine...does seem kinda light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge4x4 Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? he needs a heavier, much much heavier charge than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaDeerHunter Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? This story makes you think. Any normal person just shoots in the air to scare of geese, but he shot at them. And if I remeber right didn't he shoot at them a few times, not just once! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kracey Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? My father and grandfather are lawyer and they had a case where a boy accidentally shot his best friend and hunting partner. You have to look at it this way. This guy has to live his life facing the fact that he shot and killed someone. You know how bad he is going to feel from now until he dies? A day is not going to go by that he wont think of this incident. So yeah a year in jail and a 1000 dollar fine might seem light to you all. But the stress and guilt that man will face for the rest of his life is gonna be way worse than any punishment they could give him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? good point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? [ QUOTE ] My father and grandfather are lawyer and they had a case where a boy accidentally shot his best friend and hunting partner. You have to look at it this way. This guy has to live his life facing the fact that he shot and killed someone. You know how bad he is going to feel from now until he dies? A day is not going to go by that he wont think of this incident. So yeah a year in jail and a 1000 dollar fine might seem light to you all. But the stress and guilt that man will face for the rest of his life is gonna be way worse than any punishment they could give him. [/ QUOTE ] Thats well said for sure......but i would imagine that how one would feel is more dependant on what family your in...the Shooters or the Victims. JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjones Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? light sentence for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IADEERDUDE Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? thats it!!!! not much of a punishment ...probably just get some probation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bronco_mudder Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? I don't know what the original story is, but I would have to agree that the sentence seems pretty light. If the victim was trespassing, that would diffinately have to be considered. I haven't waterfowl hunted for 11 years, but I see these chair blinds that look like geese, and I often wondered if an incident such as this one would happen Your sitting out in the field looking like a goose, sounds like trouble to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? Well, I can see it happening by accident. I look at the blame in a fight or argument, but I guess I like to think a hunter wouldn't try to kill someone. If a coyote/crow/varmit was on my dad's field, I'd certainly take a shot with my 270. If someone got hit by the shot and died (our neighbors live 1/2 mile from our field) it would certainly be an accidental shooting. Would that deserve 10+ years in jail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Re: Do you remember?? Remember reading hte story. That does not seem like a very just punishment to me considering a man has lost his life. KNOW your target and BEYOND it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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