pointing_dogs_rule Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Hey a nice photo. No archerytalk.com. good luck to all the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 OK..I see a pic & the score sheet were received by B&C yesterday according to the facebook link you posted. Cool! Their web site & Trophy Watch will probably be updated with it soon now. Only a matter of time now! Like the link said...NT scoring is tricky. Will be interesting to see where the numbers fall. BTW...thanks for the additional pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullrut Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 ......PER BOONE AND CROCKETT TODAY......This deer will be "ACCEPTED" within the next week or so and an announcement will be made, then it will be panel scored in 2016 and it will go "OFFICIAL". SHOULD be the #1 whitetail non-typical buck ever killed by a hunter and 3rd largest whitetail non-typical buck in the Boone and Crockett club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointing_dogs_rule Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Not much on BOONE & CROCKET club. So what you're saying is that they have ACCEPTED the score by the ONE guy that measured the buck as final until 2016. I always thought that before they were accepted a PANEL of JUDGES had to score the rack after the drying period. Interesting. good luck to all the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Ok ..I stand corrected, if it is recognized as such. By the way, most here understand the scoring..the first pic did not do that buck justice imo, I prefere to see a buck credited with total GROSS score, and NOT NET. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullrut Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 319 Gross, check it out on Field and Stream. World Record Buck: This Could Be the Largest Non-Typical Ever Shot By a Hunter | Field & Stream I agree the first pics don't do the deer justice. I also agree nets are for fish and give the buck credit for EVERYTHING he grew, not what someone who started a club said that deer should be. Some of you probably do understand the scoring system I have no doubt, however I think we all agree pictures can make a decent buck look huge and a huge buck look decent. This fortunate hunter obviously didn't take very good pics or has not let them out. I'm not betting on the latter. We should also realize that just becaue a member only has a dozen or so posts doesn't mean that person isn't in the know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 New WORLD RECORD! Full rut I fully apologize. I jumped to a conclusion without the facts and I'm sorry. Welcome sir!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullrut Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Not much on BOONE & CROCKET club. So what you're saying is that they have ACCEPTED the score by the ONE guy that measured the buck as final until 2016. I always thought that before they were accepted a PANEL of JUDGES had to score the rack after the drying period. Interesting. good luck to all the dog Do you realy think every Boone and Crockett animal has to be panel scored? There are many Boone and Crockett animals scored every year and most scorers have no idea when one of these animals is coming to the scorers house to be scored. So should they send the guy home until they arrange a meeting with a few other scorers? That would be darn near impossible. This is why people who are Boone and Crockett scorers go through intense training so that thry are competent in scoring trophy animals and don't need others to help them make decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullrut Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 No problem Hoosier Hunter. I do agree it didn't look that big in the first pics. I am happy for the hunter and I just hope he talks to someone in the industry before making any decisions. If this guy wants to this buck can be his new job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenjackson Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 amazing, thanks 4 sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I always thought that before they were accepted a PANEL of JUDGES had to score the rack after the drying period. Interesting. That's true for this NT buck. After the end of each awards period (every 3 years) all NT bucks over 250, like this one will be scored by a panel. Their decision will determine the official entry score. The B&C 29th awards period begins this year. Since this buck was just submitted for entry, it goes into the 29th big game awards period. The the scoring panel for the 29th awards period will meet in 2116. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointing_dogs_rule Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 only 10" of deductions... very symmetrical... if you an see it. It will be interesting. B&C measuring seems like a boon-doogle at times. The King buck, THat big buck that was soot 12 years ago in Canada by the archer. Yep, it must be panel scored before being offical. Thanks for clearing that point up, Rhino. good luck to all the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Though B&C has received a score sheet from a veteran, official measurer, they’re waiting to view pictures and a video tape of the rack to confirm the buck was scored properly. Measuring a non-typical, particularly one of this size and caliber, can be a complicated process. B&C officials would review the tape before affirming the scoring process was correct, and the buck would still have to be panel-scored before an official proclamation was made. And as said above we will not know for sure until 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointing_dogs_rule Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Though B&C has received a score sheet from a veteran, official measurer, they’re waiting to view pictures and a video tape of the rack to confirm the buck was scored properly. Measuring a non-typical, particularly one of this size and caliber, can be a complicated process. B&C officials would review the tape before affirming the scoring process was correct, and the buck would still have to be panel-scored before an official proclamation was made. And as said above we will not know for sure until 2016 so thoretically this "new record" might not be able to profit or claim the new record until 2016? good luck to all the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Thats correct dog...also dont know how the 60 day(If I'm correct), drying process will affect final score? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 so thoretically this "new record" might not be able to profit or claim the new record until 2016? good luck to all the dog Who knows about the profit part of your question. My best guess would be yes if the owner of the trophy wants to. As for the official score, or claim of the new record for a hunter killed buck...it won't be offical until the panel meets in 2016. The Missouri Monarch still stands as the world record NT at 333 7/8 but it was found dead in St. Louis Co., MO in 1981. The panel for the awards period usually meets in April. I believe there are 11 judges picked by B&C for the panel from their official scorers along with a few consultants. B&C has a quarterly magazine publication called Fair Chase. I'm betting there will be an article about this buck in their next publication, if it's not too close to going to the presses already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I really get a bad taste from anticipating $$$ from a potential trophy, over the fact of the kill itself, in todays market I guess it has become the norm? Then again, I'd prob be the first one to sell it too Bass Pro or Cabela's...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 New WORLD RECORD! I've done some detailed checking into this since its only one county away from me. Current pictures and story are horrible. The pics will all be redone once the mount is done. The buck was killed after he was jumped by pheasant hunters on public ground. The guy who shot him didn't know about him. Several individuals did and have several cam photos of him. He was never seen during the daylight. Bass pro has offered 500,000 currently to add to the King of Bucks Collection. The score will stand more than likely. A person scored the buck who actually teaches for B&C. The first scorer contacted declined to score the deer because he knew what he was looking at and they selected the individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Hoosier..you should look into being a P.I.....lol..nice work Matloc Edited February 15, 2013 by Mathews XT Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Thanks for the update Pat. I agree with Martin about the $$$ & trophy thing. With that said, $500K is a lot of money. With that kind of offer, I could certainly have a replica made for my wall and let Bass Pro have the original. A good replica is expensive but it's just a drop in the bucket compared to that offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointing_dogs_rule Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I just remember stories (whether true or not) about potential bucks beating the Hanson buck and supposed lawsuits being filed. I agree, but money seems to be part of the game today. I can honestly say that I would not turn down any $. I would have a replica made as stated above. good luck to all the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullrut Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I had a chance to look at the score sheet tonight and there was a small math error and the score will be 308 5/8. I am a scorer and to look at that sheet, HOLY COW, what an extensive scoresheet. Talk about a jumbeled mess of numbers, gives a guy a headache just looking at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I've done some detailed checking into this since its only one county away from me. Current pictures and story are horrible. The pics will all be redone once the mount is done. The buck was killed after he was jumped by pheasant hunters on public ground. The guy who shot him didn't know about him. Several individuals did and have several cam photos of him. He was never seen during the daylight. Bass pro has offered 500,000 currently to add to the King of Bucks Collection. The score will stand more than likely. A person scored the buck who actually teaches for B&C. The first scorer contacted declined to score the deer because he knew what he was looking at and they selected the individual. Thanks for sharing the story with us Pat. Funny how these stories go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointing_dogs_rule Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Just posted on another board... you can judge if it's true. Time will tell. it was "rescored" as a few points were deemed abnormal. the final score is 305 7/8. SECOND biggest were harvested by a hunter. Who knows it may change in 3 years when panel scored. good luck to all the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullrut Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 NOT TO BE...Maybe! Beck Buck Comes in as #2 NT Hunter-taken Whitetail. The scoring procedure has been reviewed and after tine classification was verified this deer scores an amazing 305 7/8. Three tines originally scored as normal were deemed abnormal. On this particular head it took away 2/8 in deductions but when the H4 circumference measurements were taken with the correct classification the circumferences dropped a few inches resulting in a lower net score than the original posted 308 5/8. The final tally on this deer is 222 4/8 gross typical frame 93 7/8 in abnormals, and the reason that this buck’s final score ranks it as the largest non typical whitetail taken in the last decade and the second largest in hunter taken in history is that it only has 10 4/8 of deductions left to right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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