Covehnter Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 If yall can remember the story from the weekend before last i posted about calling my dad in two birds, one which flew across the Coosa River. Got really close and i was unsure where my muzzleloader was going to hit, found out it hits low as my dad killed the bird making its escape after my shot. Well, i brought it up a lil bit! At 25 yards a 295 grain Powerbelt Aerotip pushed by 150 grains of Pyrodex powder hurts'em bad! My first gobbler with a muzzleloader, situation wouldnt allow for a bow shot! He came in following 2 hens at 11:30, had a wispy beard w/ the majority being 6-7 inches, but had several strands stretching to 9 1/4", spurs were 1", and weighed in at 17.5lbs which aint bad this late in the season. Sorry about the startled look, had the camera on timer and set up on a lawn chair for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke Congrats Cove!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covehnter Posted May 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke WARNING: Next one is not too bad, just the kill scene. *** The second pic is of the work done by the 295 grain PowerBelt, impressive. If you've gotta really weak stomach, may wanna pass.*** (Mods, if it's inappropriate feel free to cut it) This is the spot where he fell dead, without a wiggle. He was standing in the upper right corner of the picture facing to the right. The impact turned him around and put him 3-4 yards back. You can see feather from the top all the way to the bottom right of the picture. The Carnage. The Carnage Link Cove I decided to just link it instead for folks who'd like to see the carnage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAMABUCKS Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke Congrats on a nice bird. Forgive me if this sounds critical...but the last photo appears to show that most of the breast was destroyed. Why not just put the 12 ga. to the head, espeacially at 25 yrds. I could see using the muzzleloader if he hung up...say 80 yrds. Again sorry if this sounds critical, just wondering out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUTNSTRUT Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke Covehunter, I always gathered from your posts you were a hardcore turkey hunter. But holey $hit bud that may be a little overkill. But congrats on the kill none the less. I am not flaming you so please don't get upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest TC308 Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke [ QUOTE ] All I have to say is WHY!!!! [/ QUOTE ] I ment whoa instead of why sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntnMa Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke lol.you were thinking why, though, lol........nice bird, congrats... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covehnter Posted May 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke Well. . . its like this, i've killed many many birds w/ shotguns. I know that i could've killed the bird w/ the scattergun, it's adding another challenge. I could've easily killed the bird last week w/ my 870 but i didnt kill it b/c of the added difficulty using a primitive weapon. But now i can say that i have. I would never use the gun for a bird that hangs up at 80 yards, the added range is not the reason i was hunting w/ the gun, 50 yards was my limit due to my limited experience shooting it. Calling is still my main fix, not being able to hit one at 100 yards, thats not turkey hunting. And another, i just got the gun this past christmas and you just know how that itch of wanting to see what a new gun will do. It was just too much to watch it sit in the vault til deer season. And yet another, the damage the bullet did to the bird was totally unforeseen, had no idea that the destruction would be so massive, but i cant wait to see it on a hog or deer. Anyone else ever killed a bird w/ a muzzleloader? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okbowman Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke you can use a muzzleloading shotgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TC308 Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke I've killed 8 but all with a scattergun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borch Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke Nice tom there Cove. I've been real tempted to pick up a muzzleloader shotgun for the additional challenge. Maybe someday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullStrutter Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke Alright what is going on here. This is unbelievable. First of all, muzzleloaders firing single projectiles are legal to hunt turkey with during the spring?? As far as I have ever known muzzleloaders are legal but you have to use shot charges, as in BIRD shot not big game sabots!!!! I don't understand this at all man. You totally obliterated that bird and wasted all the meat! You don't aim for the chest on turkeys, come on now!!!!! I still don't understand how a muzzleloader firing sabots is legal on spring turkey. Technically you could blow them away at 150 yards+ with todays modern muzzleloader technology. Lots of fun there! I am very dissappointed and disturbed to read and see this. Hope you enjoyed wasting that bird... I'm sure there was a lot of respect you could show to a destroyed carcass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntinguide Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke i dont either its all pellets or arrows here, but if its legal ok. How much meat did you ruin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke Congrats. Great field pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covehnter Posted May 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke FullStrutter, before we go poppin' off. . . are you aware that rifles are legal to take turkeys in many states? And if you bothered to read my entire post above, i would never shoot a turkey with the gun farther than 50 yards and totally disagree with the use of rifles for spring turkey. And another, you've jumped in on your 8th post and came in w/ your mouth wide open didnt ya? You may want to get to know everyone a lil before you start rattling. Everyone on here will agree, if anyone shows respect for the animals they harvest i'd be toward the top of that list. So you "come on man" and observe then object. and btw, single projectile means i'm not aiming for the head, butt of the wing or above of the leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covehnter Posted May 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke and also, the fan/cape of the bird will respectfully adore the wall of my house with "first turkey with a muzzleloader" labeled to it. btw, thanks borch for the link switching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borch Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke Straight from the GA hunting reg book. [ QUOTE ] TURKEY FIREARMS: Shotguns with No. 2 or smaller shot and any muzzleloading firearm (scopes legal). [/ QUOTE ] Legal in GA. I've heard of others shooting turkeys there with muzzleloaders so I thought it was ok. Again Congrats Cove! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntinguide Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke in okla some counties can use a gun in the fall but some cant. Spring is straight shotgun and bow, id like to take one with a muzzle loading shotgun sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullStrutter Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke well, my points and comments stand strong. I was very put off by this unfortunate display. It is obviously legal, otherwise you wouldn't be posting which I realized after my initial post. Either way, that's a pretty rediculous way to hunt turkey. Have fun with that. You are right about one thing, I did come in quite loudly on my 8th post. I have another forum I frequent much more heavily, but do peep in here from time to time. I couldn't let this one go by without saying anything. If you are so gung ho on shooting a turkey with a 295gr big game sabot, why not challenge yourself and aim for the base of the neck so you don't go and WASTE all the precious breast meat? You might cut or blow the head off but who cares, not like that'd be more devestating that exploding the chest apart. I scoff at your notion of "first turkey with a muzzleloader" being that big of a deal. Today's inlines work nearly as well as modern rimfire and centerfire rifles. Now, if you took that bird with a muzzleloading SHOTGUN, and had a charge of #5's instead of a 295gr sabot, than that'd be something to tip my hat to. For the turkey hunter you portray yourself to be, I am dissappointed with your decision to kill a turkey in this manner. I have followed your posts, and agree, you are on my level as far as extreme turkey hunting goes and being "beyond addicted, just plain sick". I live for this sh!t. Turkey hunting is my favorite thing in the world. I know you feel the same way. I just feel someone on my level wouldn't have destroyed a turkey in the manner you did. My father always taught me since I was 5, now 23, that you should never kill anything unless you're going to eat it. You killed that turkey for sport and that goes against my core hunting principles. This is my problem with this. Hope you can at least understand my view here, albeit not agreeing with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covehnter Posted May 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke [ QUOTE ] And yet another, the damage the bullet did to the bird was totally unforeseen, had no idea that the destruction would be so massive, but i cant wait to see it on a hog or deer. Anyone else ever killed a bird w/ a muzzleloader? [/ QUOTE ] Here ya go to answer your views, but rest assured that the remainder of the bird was cleaned and will be eaten. My view on the muzzleloading shotgun. . . if i killed the bird w/ a single projectile. . . a pattern of number 5's would've been an easier way of going about doing things. It's awful tough to keep your composure enough to put a killing shot on a turkey w/ a single bullet, i enjoyed the added difficulty. Another view: Every game animal i kill is cleaned and eaten, no one preaches this more than i, but lets face the truth. In the world we live in today, no one is hunting and killing for the sole purpose of food when you can run to Kroger and get a nice butterball all packaged up. We're all in this sport for the adrenline and the chase that accompanies taking one of these magnificent birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covehnter Posted May 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke [ QUOTE ] well, my points and comments stand strong. I was very put off by this unfortunate display. It is obviously legal, otherwise you wouldn't be posting which I realized after my initial post. Either way, that's a pretty rediculous way to hunt turkey. Have fun with that. [/ QUOTE ] Other than the destruction, which i guess i'll state again was unforeseen , if thats even a word, what was so "rIdiculous" about the method i chose to hunt this bird? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntinguide Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke theres nothing wrong with that, if its legal go do it, period. And i respect you not poping him at 100 yards, thats where you can start truoble. Its no different that waiting for him to come in too 30 yards and shooting him with a shot gun. I didnt agree with it at first but I can see know that is no big deal, just another way to harvest a turkey. Good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elnor Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke As huntinguide noted, OK is shotgun or bow only in the spring, but rifles (modern or primitive) are legal in some counties in the fall. That said, I've only ever hunted turkeys with shotguns. This fall I plan to go after one with a bow. For me personally, that'll be plenty of challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointing_dogs_rule Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Re: Rollin\' in Smoke congrats the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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