Gator Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 I need some help guys. How many of you realized there was a MINIMAL LEGAL LENGTH of 1.5" for Broadheads in the state? Well, I think that needs to be changed, especially with some of the smaller heads coming out, Like the new MX-4 by Muzzy, and the STRYKER by G5, just to name a few. I would like to approach the commision next January with some statistical information to get this changed. I will be talking with the Wildlife Department in the next couple of days to see what exactly I need to do. But in the meantime wanted to see who here would be willing to help me with this quest. Thanks guys!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES Total BH length.........Is that from the end of the threads to the tip of the head? I guaruntee there are alot of people out there that don't know this rule. I am one of them and I doubt it is enforced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES The length is of the ACTUAL BLADE LENGTH. That being from tip to where the threads START. I have talked to two Game Wardens and the have told me as much. Granted, i don't know how often they check this, BUT do you want to take a chance of getting caught and pay the ticket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES It needs to be changed...........Broadheads like the Nitrons, Crossfires, and Slicktricks have changed the way people thing about small broadheads. I will write a letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES Hutch, what I would like to do is have some kind of statistical info on how the smaller heads are just as good as the bigger heads. I will contact the Wildlife Department on what we need and let everyone know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES Sounds good...............Hope they change it cause I would be willing to bet that they could write a bunch of tickets on that little unknown law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES If it were to get changed, it won't be until the 2007-2008 season, but like me, I wanna try some G5 Strykers, and can't LEGALLY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES Just an excuse to have to go hunt in another state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES Went to the ODWC at lunchtime to find out what needed to be done, or at least who to talk to to get me pointed in the right direction. I will be calling back here in a little while, I'll keep everyone informed on what I find out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES I just talked to the R&D Engineer for MAGNUS BROADHEADS, and he is helping me out tremendously on this quest. Have contacted NAP, and SLICKTRICK, will talk with G5 tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES Did you contact Muzzy? There is alot of pull right there if you get muzzy behind ya because they want to be able to sell that new broadhead in Oklahoma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES Muzzy's new MX-4 is 1.5" long..........Done contacted them!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES I have now contacted MUZZY, G5, SLICKTRICK, NAP, and MAGNUS. I ahve spoken with the R&D engineer for MAGNUS, and have them on my side. to quote Woody, "MAGNUS has your back" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES Yes this needs to be changed. Those shorter shafted BH's will smoke through a deer just as fast as anything. Blade Dia is important but that rule makes no sense. Youre on the right track by contacting the BH's manufacturers. If you need anything let me know. There are a few blades Ive looked at and didnt buy for the same reason. I read that rule some time ago and have actually payed attention since then.... regardless of how dumb it is.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES Gator, I talked to some guys on AT. They mentioned it would probably be a good idea to contact the Pope&Young Assoc. They probably already have the statistics we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES I have talked again with MAGNUS and was advised to contact the state bowhunting council, which I sent an email to them this morning. After talking with Woody again, I feel like I am about to open up a whole new can of worms, and anticipate being met with strong opposition from the traditional shooters in the state. Jeramie, what were some of those brands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
struttinhoyt Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES this totally has to be changed..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griz Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES [ QUOTE ] this totally has to be changed..... [/ QUOTE ] I agree...That is not right...It needs to be changed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjones Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES hey guys just let me know what you need me to do and consider it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES No reply yet from the president of the Bowhunting Council of Oklahoma. Feel like if I don't get their backing, this may not happen. I'll give it another couple of days, see what happens. Hopefully I will hear from some of these other manufacturers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES Sorry Jason, I didnt see your question above. Ill go back through BP's website and see if I can generate a list.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES This is a reply I got from one of the more well known manufacturers that I contacted. I also talked with another yesterday that basically told me the same thing, but they were NOT very helpful at all IMO. Sure won't be using ANY of their products. [ QUOTE ] I understand and rules are very vague in many states. According to how it is written, they would not have a case against you if you shot any head that was measured shorter going from the shoulder to tip as the total length is longer. [/ QUOTE ] Now, what to do?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES Who were the companies? If they are big companies....shoot their broadheads and if you get caught blame it on the BH company for saying not to worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES Need to have 5-shot do some test on the shorter bh's. There would be some good proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Re: HEY OKIES Actually jeramie, he ahs done tests on 2-3 of them. MUZZY MX-4, Crossfire, Slicktrick. I found out 85gr Thunderheads were to short, along with 85gr MONTEC's.......But like I said, I dunno what to do now, shoot them and push the envelope, or get it changed now, before it goes a way we don't want it to. I wonder if we should all email the Bowhunting Council, with some of the material from 5-shots tests, and see what happens...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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