Palssonater Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Re: Question:::: Usually an orange jacket and hat and I even put some blaze on the dog.... I wouldn't put it past some idiot to haul off on what he thinks is a bear or deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Re: Question:::: [ QUOTE ] Norm, the person behind the gun is still responsible for his shot! The only way I could get around that is if the kid was wearing a deer costume. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this 100%. The reason we should wear hunters orange is because we know the seasons, etc. Not everyone knows when its a rifle or ml season. That may sound like a cop out but its the truth. If the boy knew the difference he would have been much wiser to have worn some orange or at minimum, colors that would give him away. But that doesn't take anything away from the stupid decision the hunter made. KNOW YOUR TARGET. Whats the difference between shooting at a target you're not 100% sure of and shooting at a sound? None in my eyes. If you're not sure of whats at the end of your barrel (and beyond), dont pull the trigger. just my $.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Re: Question:::: I believe the guy that pulled the trigger is at fault! There isn't anyway in the world I would pull the trigger unless I am 100% positive it is a deer. In fact, I would never bring the gun up to my shoulder unless I was 100% positive it was a deer. I do not use any orange but there are several idiots out there and I might start to use it! I have seen people who were shot and that is another long story! When you pull the trigger, you cannot recall that bullet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted December 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Re: Question:::: Great discussion guys. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palssonater Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Re: Question:::: Also, take any muffler off the vehicle you are using. They'll here your coming and your neighbors will know that you have left and to keep an eye on the house! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Re: Question:::: If one hunter were to shoot another hunter who wasnt wearing orange Id have to agree with you Norm that both guys were at fault, a hunter not wearing orange during a gun season ist showing much good sense.If they get shot, I have a hard time feeling sorry for them regardless of who pulled the trigger. But I cant hardly fault a non hunter, who is out hiking for not having any orange on.realistically the thought it was deer season might have never crossed his mind, if he wasnt a hunter he probably pays very little attention to what hunting seasons are open and whats not, there would be no reason for him to.Anynes entitled to go for a walk in the woods with a reasonable expectation of not getting shot, no matter what theyre wearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Re: Question:::: On the lease that I hunt we have a $100 fine for shooting a button buck. (Our choice, no law) Last week I scoped a doe for 10 minutes before I shot her. I wanted to make darn sure what I was shooting. If the guy who shot that kid had glassed his target for 2 seconds he would have known what it was. Kid's (the majority) have no sence. You can't fault them for not having on orange. KNOW YOUR TARGET, then shoot if it's a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldawg Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Re: Question:::: Hunter orange works. I hunt alot of land where there are big marshes, with thick, and thin willow patches in them. The willows grow high, and it is a blessing to look around, and automatically know that John Doe is sitting over this way...Billy Bob is over to the left.... etc. They may be over 200 yards away, but I know they are there to begin with, and that tells me right from the start that those ways are completely off limits for taking any shots. That is not laziness, it's preventive accident protection. If they are 200 yards away, and not visible to the naked eye(not everyone has time to glass the shots), there is a chance that someone could fling lead thier way unintentionally. An ounce of prevention...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Re: Question:::: [ QUOTE ] I myself would never walk through the woods during any open hunting season, without at least a blaze hat. BUT.............. It is up to us as hunters to identify our target. I get is excited as anyone else at the souNd of an aproaching deer. I can't even imagine mistaking a human for a deer. [/ QUOTE ] Couldn't have said it better myself. The only "hunting" accident that is acceptable in my eyes are the stray bullet accidents. We all miss from time to time and a bullet/slug can travel very far if it don't hit something to stop it. So far this rifle season, I've seen alot of deer including bucks. I have yet to take my safety off...infact, I haven't even pulled my gun up to look at the deer. I wear bino's and use them to "scope" out my target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archerjg Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Re: Question:::: Even with hunter orange I would not walk through the woods. Archerjg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Re: Question:::: Norm, While I agree with you on the fact that the kid may have been being stupid....I wonder if they even knew it...there in lies the problem. As far as my responsibility in the matter...it all comes down to the first rule of safety: 1. Always Keep The Muzzle Pointed In A Safe Direction This is the most basic safety rule. If everyone handled a firearm so carefully that the muzzle never pointed at something they didn't intend to shoot, there would be virtually no firearms accidents. It's as simple as that, and it's up to you. Never point your gun at anything you do not intend to shoot. This is particularly important when loading or unloading a firearm. In the event of an accidental discharge, no injury can occur as long as the muzzle is pointing in a safe direction. A safe direction means a direction in which a bullet cannot possibly strike anyone, taking into account possible ricochets and the fact that bullets can penetrate walls and ceilings. The safe direction may be "up" on some occasions or "down" on others, but never toward anything not intended as a target. Even when "dry firing" with an unloaded gun, you should never point the gun at an unsafe target. Make it a habit to know exactly where the muzzle of your gun is pointing at all times, and be sure that you are in control of the direction in which the muzzle is pointing, even if you fall or stumble. This is your responsibility, and only you can control it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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