Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Anyone have one of these or know anyone that has one? my dad told me he wanted to get himself a muzzleloader, and cabelas has this one for $140. i don't have a whole lot of money and thought this would make a good christmas present for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gitcha_some Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Re: CVA Wolf its a great gun for the money...although i know some people on here dont like cva and will disagree very accurate, rugged gun i can easily take deer at 100 yards with open sights on mine...if i had a scope id probably push it to 150 also very easy to clean...a great starter gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HaDeRonDa Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Re: CVA Wolf GWSmith has one I think. He was shooting right along side my Omega. Great gun. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one after I saw how his shot. Gitcha is right. Easy to clean it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA_RIDGE_RUNNER Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Re: CVA Wolf I've not handled the CVA wolf but have handled a few samples of CVA. I am certainly not in love with their products. Call BPI (CVA importer) and ask how much their barrels are proofed for and you will not get a straight answer. Call any American muzzleloader company and you get a straight answer. If a load of not more than 90 grains is used they are likely to last a very long time but their owners manuals seem to indicate that loads far in excess of this are safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Re: CVA Wolf I have a wolf and while I do not believe they are the best on the market they are very accurate and worth the dollar. Ive owned a few different ML'ers from Traditions, CVA, and even an H&R. Honestly for the money id look at the H&R sidekick. If you're set on the Wolf you're not going to go wrong. I am shooting 120grn of Pyrodex. Im going to step that back to 100 this next year but for now Im holding good groups at 100yds. There is nothing wrong with their accuracy. If you take the time to test deferent loads and powder combinations you will find they can shoot every bit as good as you would expect from a ML'er. I just picked mine up last year and thus far have killed a coyote and a 7-point. Both were just as dead as if I had used a higher end ML'er. Again, the H&R is about the same price and a far better choice (can be ordered at Walmart for the same money or close). However, if you decided on the wolf he will be happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMOdeerhunter Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Re: CVA Wolf I have a CVA Wolf, I got it last year and it was my first one but I dont have any intentions of upgrading anytime soon. I didnt kill anything with it but then again, I never shot at anything. I was impressed with the groups it shot at 100 yds and I never shot out past that. I was shooting 130 gr of pyro pellets and power belts that were 245 gr(i think) I say go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Re: CVA Wolf I do have one and like it! It's not the top of the line Muzzleloading rifle but it will shoot well if you take the time to find out what Load the gun likes the best. IMHO it's not a long range rifle, especially with the short barrell length, but I did not buy with the intention of taking 200yd shots with it. I had the chance to shoot this rifle through a chronograph and found out something I feel is very important I pass on: This rifle is rated for 150gr Powder charge but... After I got to 120gr and above of 2F Black Powder there was No Increase in speed! In my opinion(with my rifle and choice of bullet/powder combination) any powder charge higher than 120gr is not being completely burnt. I actually got the best grouping @ 100yds with a powder charge of only 90gr 2F BP, a 240gr bullet, and 50cal MMP sabot. It took alot of time on the range to figure out what combination works the best in this particular rifle...but thats owed to any game I attempt to shoot with it. I can shoot 20+ shots through it(spit patch/dry patch inbetween each shot), without pulling the breech plug, and the breech plug never has any fouling because I use Teflon Tape to seal the threads. The Teflon Tape seals the threads so well that it only takes a light bump on a ratchet handle to loosen then I can unthread it by hand! With the break-open action it is very easy to pull the breech plug and very easy to clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shotist Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Re: CVA Wolf [ QUOTE ] I actually got the best grouping @ 100yds with a powder charge of only 90gr 2F BP, a 240gr bullet, and 50cal MMP sabot. [/ QUOTE ] This seems to be very common with CVA rifles...90-100gr of propellant. Don't short change how lethal that will be at 90gr of 2f. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Re: CVA Wolf I just picked up a CVA wolf 2 weeks ago. Gander Mtn had them for $139. I topped it with a T/C blister pack of a Simmons3x9x40, Gorilla grip rings and weaver style bases for $69. Out the door I was $227 lighter. A good value for the money. I have not shot it yet, but will very shortly. This gun, I believe is designed around pellet propellant use. It replaced my 1st smokepole, one of T/C's original inlines a Thunderhawk (1989). The folks I know who have a CVA, have had great results with Power Belt bullets and 100 or 150 gr pellet charges. GW, is the powder that is not burnt, going beyond 120grs due to the short bbl on the wolf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Re: CVA Wolf Thats my opinion on why it's not burning any more black powder than 120gr.... The inside of the Barrell only measures 22-3/4" from the face of the breech plug to the crown of the muzzle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Re: CVA Wolf I actually bought one very cheap last year on clearance at the end of the year.Paid 59 or 69$ for the gun brand new.Im not a CVA fan by any means, they screwed me over pretty good on an earlier gun I bought but for the price I couldnt pass it up. Decided to sight it in today and went to get bullets, found a cheap variable power scope with the mounts included for 40$ while I was there and bought it not expecting much, just to throw it on the gun and see what it would do really. I was shooting 75 grains of 777 and 250 grain shockwaves.I gotta say, I was more then impressed with what this gun did.the scope was only off a little right from the start and we soon had it zeroed in after about 4 shots at 25 yrds.Backed up to 50 yards and it shot three bullets through a small water bottle I had hanging up you could cover up with your thumb.made a small adjustemt to the left on the scope and backed up to about 80 yrds.Two more shots through the bottle that were touching each other. Finally the last shot I aimed at a small deadbolt lock that was in a door we had propped up in the burning pile.At 80 yrds I put the bullet through the lock, its only about 1 1/2 inches around. Ill be the first to admitt Im not a great shot by any means but I was really impressed with what Id put together for around 100$ total.The gun never became hard to load even after 9 or 10 shots, the groups were good and very consistant.The only problem i had was with the cheap aluminum ramrod that came with it.It broke in half last fall when I attepted to load the gun and had to be replaced.This year Im going to leave the Knight in the closet and hunt with this one.Hoping to try some longer ranges this weekend just for fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mule659 Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Re: CVA Wolf my best friend jusy bought one for his dad and like some others said it is not the best out there but for the money it is a very good gun and will get the job done just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter862 Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Re: CVA Wolf I have one and it is a great shooting gun. If I have 1 complaint, it is that the trigger pulls VERY hard. If someone knows how to lighten the trigger pull, I'd love to hear about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Re: CVA Wolf I agree with the problem trigger. That is the only gripe I have too. Other then the cheap trigger they are identical to an Optima from what I can tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inhunter Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: CVA Wolf This is my second year with my Cva Wolf mag I agree with the heavy trigger pull, but that would be my only complaint Last year plowed a 12 pt at 20 yds ran 50 yds with a big hole in his chest 245gr aero tip 2 days later dropped a doe in her tracks at 95 yds Last friday 115yds dropped the biggest deer of my life in his tracks green score 170 3/4. And tonight 50yds yearling split his heart in two! I am very happy with my gun. I bought it because of the distance you can shoot these things anymore didn't want to spend a bundle. Actually got a couple of buddies pondering giving up there shotguns! Just my 2 cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: CVA Wolf I also agree on the trigger being a bit tough. I took it to a indoor range last night after I boresighted it. Put a 3-9x40Simmons on it. It was shooting good 4"groups@ 100 yards with 2, 50gr 777 pellets pushing a 295gr Powerbelt. I think it may be the best value out there for a basic meat and potatoes smokepole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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