MCH Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Out of all the major league baseball players currently on an active roster, who do you think is a shoe-in for the Hall of Fame??? BTW--I'm trying to settle and argument between me and Ron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Chief Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Ken Griffey Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Glavine, Smoltz, Griffey, Clemens, A-Rod, Jeter, Maddux, Biggio are all the guys that I can think of that will walk right off the field and right into the Hall. Guys that I think would probably make it at some point, not first ballot but, at some point would be.......... Bonds, Chipper Jones, Vlad Guerrero, and ManRam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Glavine, Smoltz, Griffey, Clemens, A-Rod, Jeter, Maddux, Biggio are all the guys that I can think of that will walk right off the field and right into the Hall. Guys that I think would probably make it at some point, not first ballot but, at some point would be.......... Bonds, Chipper Jones, Vlad Guerrero, and ManRam. Agree with John here, but I'd say Bonds will make it first ballot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 John named some good ones, but I'd add Trevor Hoffman to that list to settle your arguement with Ron...not first ballot though. I do think ManRam is a first ballot guy. Jim Thome will get in as well. Pudge is a first ballot guy. Guy's who have a shot Omar Vizquel Kenny Lofton Carlos Delgado Albert Pujols Pedro Martinez Sammy Sosa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MCH Posted August 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 My argument with Ron was over Jeter. He's a diehard Yankee fan, yet he doesn't believe Jeter is a shoe-in for the Hall. I think he is. Here's who I think are definitely in, even if they never play past this season: (Already named) Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Jeter, A-Rod, Bonds, Griffey, Clemens, Pedro, Biggio and Chipper. (Not named) Jeff Kent, Mike Piazza, Randy Johnson, Mariano Rivera, Curt Schilling (those that need a couple more good years)Martin, Kemp, Billinglsey, Loney, Broxton, Kershaw, and Ethier......:D:D Sry couldn't resist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 If Jeter didn't play for the Yankees, he's not a first ballot guy, but a HOFer. But since he plays for the Yankees he'll get in, heck, ESPN might even shell out the cash to have the HOF named after him. Jeff Kent?? No way. I'm on the fence with Schilling too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Definately Rivera, maybe Randy Johnson and Schilling....no way on Kent or Piazza... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted August 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Definately Rivera, maybe Randy Johnson and Schilling....no way on Kent or Piazza... I'm not a big fan of Piazza's but I think him holding the record for homeruns as a catcher will be enough to put him on before his chance is up. But now, Jeff Kent should be a first ballot Hall of Famer. He should go down in the books as the best offensive 2nd baseman in the history of baseball. I know you think I'm biased because he's a Dodger, but he's still an Astro to me. And honestly, Kent is just a no-brainer for me. I'm actually shocked that you guys don't think he is. I mean, I realize you guys aren't the most intelligent out there, but I thought ya'll actually knew a little bit about sports every now and then.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I thought about Kent when I first read this thread too. I think he has a shot. Piazza, definitely for the reasons Kevin mentioned. He was pretty durable back there too. How about Tejada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted August 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Thought about Tejada, but I figured he's not a lock right now. If he continues putting up good numbers and maybe wins a WS, then he'll be there. I think Vlad and Manny are as good as in, but again, they need a few more years of putting up the consistent numbers. Before its all said and done...barring major injury or early retirement, here's few that should be there: Jose Reyes, Johan Santana, Ichiro, Hanley Ramirez, Alfonso Soriano, Miguel Cabrera, Russell Martin(you knew I had to throw him in:D), Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 How about someone like Andruw Jones? The gold gloves, the bat (most of the time). Dare I say one of the best centerfielders since Mays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted August 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 How about someone like Andruw Jones? The gold gloves, the bat (most of the time). Dare I say one of the best centerfielders since Mays. If you would've asked me before this season started, Andruw would've been on my list. What's he got, like 9 gold gloves??? But with him having one of the worst years of his career right now, I'm not sure if he'll recover. He's batting .214 right now. One of the worst slumps I've ever seen him in. I kept thinking all year that he would bust out but he hasn't. Some never do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I agree with most of the players you all have listed. Kent will make it. Piazza----I don't know. He may be one of the best offensive catchers, but he is by far the WORST defensive catcher.... Thome- No . As for the Jeter argument heck ya he is in. Not sure about his exact stats in the post season, but they are good!!! Ones that come to my mind that you guys haven't listed: A. Pujols, J.Santana, R. Oswalt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I listed Pujols Toddy, and you're crazy if you think Thome doesn't get in. Santana if he can keep it going, and Oswalt has to do a lot more in his career too. Kent...Kent?? No way man, WAY to many down years, plus he's a DB and no one likes him...and lets not kid ourselves, the DB factor matters a lot. Piazza's in. No freaking way on Andruw Jones. I'll agree the guy's an awesome fielder, one of the best I've seen in my lifetime, but he doesn't hit for a high enough average (especially this year like Kev said) to get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted August 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Show me the "way too" many down years??? He's averaged over 20 dingers a year for his career. He's even broke 30 a couple of times. This from a guy that everyone would agree has probably never taken steroids. And all this from a 2nd baseman?? Definite hall of fame material. As far as Kent being a DB, the guys a gamer. Has the same mentality that Ty Cobb had just not as fervent. I mean, I think he should be in the hall of fame just for the fact that he stood up to Barry Bonds when noone else would. BTW--I'd like to correct an error in my intial Kent post.... Kent will always be a Giant to me. Not sure why I typed Astro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I listed Pujols Toddy, and you're crazy if you think Thome doesn't get in. Sorry missed your Pujols. :) What has Thome done to allow him to be in?? While yes kent is a jerk and DB, he has some good numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I guess his career numbers are better than I thought they were. Comparing them to guy's like Joe Morgan, Ryan Sanberg etc....he's actually looking pretty good. He's in. You happy now Dodger lover? But if I had a vote, no way, if for no other reason than he didn't do anything after the Tribe signed him in '96. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted August 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 :D Like I said, Kent is a Giant wearing a Dodger uniform. Plain and simple. When he gets in, he'll go in as a Giant. I'm torn on Thome as well. Not 100% sure he'll be in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 No way on Andruw Jones, definately no way on Pujols. That guy has played what....5, 6 seasons? He might be on track to one day be in the conversation one daybut not now...no way. I guess I could see Kent just because of the position he played, but I still don't see Piazza. The guy hit a bunch of jacks, in the steroid era at that, and that's it. No defense, no rings...no Hall. PS--Kev stop slurping Dodgers and Oklahomians already today. Barry Sanders the best ever, Kent, Martin in the Hall of Fame.......c'mon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 yeah, I was saying Pujols is on track, not HOF eligilbe right now...but with the way that guy avoided the whole steriod speculation, I'm sure he'll slip in the HOF no problem after he retires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booner1331 Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Jeter, A-Rod, Bonds, Griffey, Clemens, Biggio,Mike Piazza, Randy Johnson, Mariano Rivera......... are all sure things Pedro,Jeff Kent, Curt Schilling,Vlad Guerrero are maybe's (Real close) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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