MCH Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 :D:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSGB Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 He can't hit a curve ball. I still think he's the best defensive center fielder in the game. Maybe he'll actually listen to the Dodger's hitting coach and improve at the plate. 36 million for two years is a lot of money for a guy coming off a .222 season. To be honest, I wish he'd have stayed in Atlanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 I just heard the news. Very good pick up for you guys. I cant wait to see them when they come to Detroit this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted December 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Maybe he'll actually listen to the Dodger's hitting coach and improve at the plate. 36 million for two years is a lot of money for a guy coming off a .222 season. If I were Andruw Jones, I would listen to Don Mattingly. He's one of the few hitting coach's that actually knows how to hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhine16 Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Boy that's wierd to see him in anything but a Braves cap. Just doesnt look right. Oh well, maybe Andruw will rejuvenate his career in LA. Just hopefully the Braves will shut him down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSGB Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 If I were Andruw Jones, I would listen to Don Mattingly. He's one of the few hitting coach's that actually knows how to hit. So, you're saying TP can't hit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Can't see pics at work. I imagine Jones got traded to LA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 sure hope for your sake he plays better this year than what he did last year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted December 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 sure hope for your sake he plays better this year than what he did last year.... I would've taken his season last year. Our HR leader hit just 20, I think. Andruw beat that by 6, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Yet another overpaid guy who will under acheive. Great, the guy's defense is slipping and a good year is a .250 average, lets throw 36 million at him so he can be boys with Nomar and his weak hamstrings. Nice move Dodgers...this actually makes the Pierre deal look good. btw- imagine how many cheeseburgers can he buy with this deal. He'll get even fatter now...sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted December 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Yet another overpaid guy who will under acheive. Great, the guy's defense is slipping and a good year is a .250 average, lets throw 36 million at him so he can be boys with Nomar and his weak hamstrings. Nice move Dodgers...this actually makes the Pierre deal look good. btw- imagine how many cheeseburgers can he buy with this deal. He'll get even fatter now...sweet. LMAO I expected nothing less. We got him for two years, DB. In '08, his salary will be like 9 million. Not bad for a perennial gold glove CF with his power potential. Honestly, who do you think is the better all-around CF out of these three: Hunter, Rowand and Jones?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 LMAO I expected nothing less. We got him for two years, DB. In '08, his salary will be like 9 million. Not bad for a perennial gold glove CF with his power potential. Honestly, who do you think is the better all-around CF out of these three: Hunter, Rowand and Jones?? I guy who strikesouts all the time and hits .220 is not one of the best all-around CF's:o sorry man. I guess I would have put him in that category 5 years ago, but not now. Personally, I'd rather have Hunter. If I could choose anyone, Sizemore and Chris Young would be my top two. AJones is on the downside, definitely an upgrade over Pierre...if you have money to burn, but this ain't going to seel a WS ring for ya boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhine16 Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Honestly, who do you think is the better all-around CF out of these three: Hunter, Rowand and Jones?? I'd take Andruw over the other two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 I'd go Hunter, Jones, then Rowand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 I would take Hunter over Jones, then Rowand with Granderson being a close 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted December 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 I guess it all comes down to whether you believe Jones' numbers last year were an indication of his decline, which I don't. If you compare his "bad year" numbers to Hunter's above average year, they are similar. So I could see how you could choose Hunter. But, I believe Jones' numbers last year was an aberration. He may never hit .300, but I would bet he will finish over .250 with 30+ HR's and over 100 RBI's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Craig, you're forgetting about Sizemore who has MVP potential bud. I'd be hard-pressed to think of one position player I'd rather have over him right now if I'm starting a team. Granderson is a good one too though. Kev, I guess if you just go off the stats, the obvious decision would be to go with Jones. But I think Hunter brings more to the table in the intangibles department. Seeing how Jones didn't really have all that many suitors, and the fact the Dodgers only gave him a two-year deal, sort of show the luke warm feeling about him across MLB. You also have to question the 50+ HR year- oddly that's timed perfectly with the roid boom...I'd be suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest COACH J. Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Id take Griffey over Jones! 36Mill for his glove!!!That is sick!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted December 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Craig, you're forgetting about Sizemore who has MVP potential bud. I'd be hard-pressed to think of one position player I'd rather have over him right now if I'm starting a team. Granderson is a good one too though. Kev, I guess if you just go off the stats, the obvious decision would be to go with Jones. But I think Hunter brings more to the table in the intangibles department. Seeing how Jones didn't really have all that many suitors, and the fact the Dodgers only gave him a two-year deal, sort of show the luke warm feeling about him across MLB. You also have to question the 50+ HR year- oddly that's timed perfectly with the roid boom...I'd be suspect. I'm all for "intangibles", but a guy could hit .150 with 0 HR's and all the intangibles in the world couldn't get him a contract. Fact is Andruw Jones is a better defensive outfielder than Hunter. Now, Hunter probably plays the wall better than anyone in the league but as far as errors, range and arm goes, Jones gets the edge. I'd give the offensive edge to Jones as well. His numbers last year were his worst to date and he still finished only 2 HR's and 13 RBI's behind Hunter. My only concern with Andruw is his physical condition. Like you mentioned, that spike in HR's came at an odd time, so we'll never know for sure. But me and the Dodgers() are banking on the fact that Andruw will outperform Hunter. Did you know that Colletti never offered Hunter a contract??? He knew who he was going after. I've got money that says Furcal had a little inside knowledge on Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 See, I think Hunter is the better outfielder right now. When they were both in their primes, no one could touch Jones, that's true. I just don't think he's still there offensively or defensively. I'm not really only basing this off last year either, and he certainly isn't chop liver but... But really, the main thing that makes me indifferent on Jones is the fact that I'd question his motivation and effort, especially after getting a nice payday. Plus, out of all the positions on the field, CF, SS and C are positions I could live without having a HR hitter at, especially if it's an NL club. Who knows though, maybe the change of pace will kick his arsh back into gear. This all said, I thought he'd be a Yankee for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMn106 Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 I would take Curtis Granderson ahead of any CF in the game now. He has great range and plays a great CF. His offensive skills are not lacking muching either. .302 average, 23 HRs and 26 SBs. You can not ask for much more out of a lead off hitter. He also has 38 doubles and 23 triples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted December 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Yeah, but that's just one season. He needs a couple of those before he becomes one of the top 5 in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Our HR leader hit just 20, I think. Andruw beat that by 6, I believe. Yeah he hits hr but he also strikes out A LOT and hits for a very low average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted December 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 If Andruw can give me 20+ HR's and 100+ RBI's, he could strike out 50% of the time if he wants. Seriously, though, the Dodgers needed a big bat. We were next to last in HR's last year. Plus, Juan Pierre is not a great defensive CF. I would wager that 90% of the time when a runner was on 3rd and a flyball was hit to center, that runner would score. The other 10% the ball was caught by Furcal or Kent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Yeah, Granderson had a very nice year, but come on super. Honestly, Grady Sizemore has more speed, more power, is a much better fielder, and a much better baserunner...he's as throwback as they come and he plays the game right. The only real knock on Grady is his arm strenght which is really only average. And, if you want to talk young CF's, Chris Young from the Diamondbacks is a 30-30 guy with potential for 40-40. btw- the park he plays his home games in has a lot to do with Granderson's 20+ triples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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