BrotherBadger Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I recently got a P220 from my grandfather, who always kept a full mag in the gun, but nothing in the barrel(as a self defense gun). I grew up thinking this is perfectly acceptable, and when i got home tonight, my roommate wanted to see the gun. He was shocked when he realized the mag was full(basically said i was dumb for doing that). That got me thinking, did old pop teach me wrong? I don't see it as dangerous, as there is no way for that gun to go off until i cock it. Anyways, i await your opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I think you definitely made a mistake by handing him a gun with a loaded magazine in it without telling him. I would have dropped the mag, cleared the weapon, and then checked it both physically and visually. Although, depending on your living situation, your career, your proximity to violent people, etc... as to whether or not I would keep it with a mag in it. I am a 20+ year law enforcement officer and because of two children in the house, I DO NOT, keep a weapon or a round anywhere near one another, or even with the kids knowledge, in the house. If I was a single man, without a girlfriend, wife or kids??? I would probably have a handgun with a magazine in it concealed somewhere in my home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 ALWAYS..treat EVERY gun as if it were loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointing_dogs_rule Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I think you definitely made a mistake by handing him a gun with a loaded magazine in it without telling him. I would have dropped the mag, cleared the weapon, and then checked it both physically and visually. Although, depending on your living situation, your career, your proximity to violent people, etc... as to whether or not I would keep it with a mag in it. I am a 20+ year law enforcement officer and because of two children in the house, I DO NOT, keep a weapon or a round anywhere near one another, or even with the kids knowledge, in the house. If I was a single man, without a girlfriend, wife or kids??? I would probably have a handgun with a magazine in it concealed somewhere in my home. I agree with the above stated.....very good points. I am single and have no kids and I live alone. All my guns are kept in a gun safe. None have any shells in the chamber and none have any in the magazine (and they never will). With that stated: I do have full magazines next to the guns in the LOCKED SAFE. As stated: act like every gun is loaded (even when the chamber is open). Good luck to all the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I carry my 220 SOA in condition 3. Loaded mag,loaded chamber, cocked and safety on. Like Swamphunter said. Always clear the weapon before giving it to anyone and never take it out of the holster in public to show it off. I carry ammo with nickel cases in it so the chamber isn't damaged by the brass. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Whenever I have shown any guns in my home to anyone whether they be rifles pistols or shotguns, unless they are brand new never fired in a manufacturers box, which I do have a few put up nib, I always check that they are clear before handing them to whoever is looking, just feels like a safe practice. Likewise whenever I have had anyone hand me a gun I check it unless they cleared it in front of me. Gotta agree 100 percent here with Ken on checking the weapon is cleared, even if you know it is empty it is still a good idea. Also agree on treating every firearm as if it is loaded. Too many accidents happen with "empty" firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Yes my sig is load and ready to fire at all times.....IF bad guy comes at me or my family I am not going to take the time to rack the slide then start shooting. This however is the only gun loaded at all times. Every other gun I own in locked in my safe unloaded and ammo is in a separate location. ANY TIME you ever hand a gun to another person or have one handed to you, you should double and triple check it is unloaded for your safety and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okiedog Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I always check that they are clear before handing them to whoever is looking, just feels like a safe practice. Likewise whenever I have had anyone hand me a gun I check it unless they cleared it in front of me. QUOTE] The exact same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mule659 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I keep two loaded handguns with rounds in the chamber ready to fire in my room...a .40 on my side and a 9mm on my wifes. If someone breaks on their not going to be nice and stand there while I look for my magazine and chamber a round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I keep two loaded handguns with rounds in the chamber ready to fire in my room...a .40 on my side and a 9mm on my wifes. If someone breaks on their not going to be nice and stand there while I look for my magazine and chamber a round. We keep ours ready at our house too. Our kids have been instructed well and often not to touch any gun unless we hand it to them. As for handing a loaded gun to someone, that's a no no around me. Even on the range, when handing a gun off to someone we pull the mag and rack the slide. Even our single shots we hand over with the action open. How many "empty" guns kill people a year? Don't know, but I don't want to be one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherBadger Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Probably should have explained the situation a little better. I have no kids, just me and the roommate right now(I'm getting married in July, that's why i wanted a HD gun). I did check the weapon in front of him, that's how he saw the mag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterbobb Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I think you definitely made a mistake by handing him a gun with a loaded magazine in it without telling him. I would have dropped the mag, cleared the weapon, and then checked it both physically and visually. Although, depending on your living situation, your career, your proximity to violent people, etc... as to whether or not I would keep it with a mag in it. I am a 20+ year law enforcement officer and because of two children in the house, I DO NOT, keep a weapon or a round anywhere near one another, or even with the kids knowledge, in the house. If I was a single man, without a girlfriend, wife or kids??? I would probably have a handgun with a magazine in it concealed somewhere in my home. I think Swamp got it 100% right. I agree completely with everything he says. :gun2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I have a .357 revolver at home in my safe that is loaded and ready to go in the event I may need it. I also have a 9mm in my truck that has a full mag but not one in the chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 We are having home invasions here. I don't think they would let me run to the safe for a gun after they knock the door in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad dryden Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 I dont see it being a big deal as long as you take the mag. out and make sure its clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 I keep both my pistols loaded with one in the chamber. But if I show them to someone I either let them know, or unload it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobbly_Alaska Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 kids and guns... We keep ours ready at our house too. Our kids have been instructed well and often not to touch any gun unless we hand it to them. As for handing a loaded gun to someone, that's a no no around me. Even on the range, when handing a gun off to someone we pull the mag and rack the slide. Even our single shots we hand over with the action open. How many "empty" guns kill people a year? Don't know, but I don't want to be one of them. every gun in my house is ready to be chambered unless i am working on it...my kids are instructed to keep theirs unloaded at all time..i keep the ammo locked in the powder room. my kids all know what guns do... they hunt, they kill, they harvest. when they were small... lessons with water melons and pumpkins were taught with various calibers recently i over heard a conversation between my daughter and one of her friends... when her friend asked if she could HOLD my daughters rifle ..... my daughter replied... nope not with out dad... and the friend got pushy... and again my daughter replied... only if you want my dad to break your fingers.... mine too.. the friends said... my folks will SUE your dad if he did that.... my daughter said... WE will STILL have broken fingers... go ask my dad, and he will call your dad to ask if he can teach you..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJL Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 They aren't much good if they're not loaded................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHunter Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 ok so rule one when passing a gun to or from someone is to unload it and make sure it is unloaded. If you did that your fine, if you handed it to him with a loaded mag then you made what could of turned into a serious mistake. The keeping of a gun for self defense is not stupid, I have a weapon in my home loaded for defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Lots of great responses. I keep my magazine loaded at all times with the chamber empty. When children were young the guns were all locked away, but as they grow older I feel it is of UTMOST importance to get them familiar with guns and gun safety. Now they're ten and I haven't had my guns locked up in over 2 years. They know full and well not to touch my guns, or any other gun at anyone's house they are visiting. I see more stories of kids that have guns in the house all their lives under lock and key and then one day daddy forgets and leaves one on the counter and curiosity takes over with tragic results, or even worse when you hear of these cases where the kids bring a loaded weapon to school for "show and tell". I'll take my chances with teaching kids gun safety over gun locks any day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mule659 Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Obviously it is asking for trouble not to clear a weapon before handing it to someone...that is plain stupid in my book. It is also stupid in my book to keep your weapons and/or ammo locked up where they cannot be grabbed quickly if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Got to also admit that I do keep my ruger with a loaded mag in reach from the bed, clip loose in the gun in my holster with the clip ready to bump in and rack the slide. Have a second full clip for the ruger right there in the safe right next to the bed. Would be useless if someone breaks in, anyone comes in the house without our knowledge it is safe to assume they are not here to drop off presents. If an intruder came in and I had to fumble around to find a mag in the safe and then load it from ammo also locked away it would be pointless to have them for self defense. Also have a full 20 rd clip in my AR, that clip is also not engaged, that is locked in the cabinet ready to go with a quick bump to engage the clip and draw back the charging handle, we do see yotes out the back window here from time to time and I have shot a few out the sliding glass door. Have missed opportunities on a few for having to get and load a clip, call it lessons learned. We do have 3 daughters 14, 8, and 4. Our kids have grown up around guns and hunting and are/have been taught what they do and they know to respect them. They never have friends in the house without one of us also in the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devildog Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 About 2 weeks ago I was at a local fleamarket and just walked past a booth where this guy was trying to sell a couple of guns. I slowed downed to look and my loving wife told me to come on. Any ways we just got to the next row when we hear a gunshot! The idiot had a loaded pistol and a teenager picked it up and pulled the trigger! Lucky the round went through the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 all my guns are loaded, but never one in the chamber. but, i'd never give a gun to anyone without clearing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 They aren't much good if they're not loaded................. Sometimes the shortest post makes the most sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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