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Being a lifelong Presbyterian, this just makes my heart sink.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100708/ap_on_re_us/us_presbyterians_gays

I am not one to know much scripture off the top of my head. But I do know what Leviticus 18:22 says. And it's fairly clear and to-the-point.

How can the Presby leaders hold the Word of God in such disregad when making policy??? I fear this may mean a split among Presbyterian churches across the country.

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Being a lifelong Presbyterian, this just makes my heart sink.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100708/ap_on_re_us/us_presbyterians_gays

I am not one to know much scripture off the top of my head. But I do know what Leviticus 18:22 says. And it's fairly clear and to-the-point.

How can the Presby leaders hold the Word of God in such disregad when making policy??? I fear this may mean a split among Presbyterian churches across the country.

The first chapter of Romans deals with this topic the best I've seen. Romans 1:21-28. If you believe the Bible you cannot tolerate this.

Mark

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Leviticus 18:22 (King James Version)

22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

People have started their own versions of the Bible. They are looking for any loop holes to excuse sin and live they way they wish. This is just further proof that the Church has also been corrupted.

God will forgive even homosexuality but only if you repent. Continuing to live that life has no repentance. A church pushing it is far worse as they are a false profit.

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In Romans 1:26-27 Paul is very specific, “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.” In 1 Corinthians 6:9, Paul wrote, “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.”

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IMHO many of the churches that have a hierarchy will bow down to the false teachings and political whims of society. That's why the church in the N.T. was always local. Self-governing, with elders chosen from among the members to make decisions. It's the same principle that we went to war over in 1776. People in one city making decisions that effect people in another. It ain't Bible.

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I heard this sermon where the preacher talked about the Jefferson Bible named after the president, that he tore out which scriptures he didn't like. And this is kinda like what some modern churches and people for that matter are doing now. Accepting the scriptures that say "God is loving, and merciful" and that's true. But God also hates sin. You either accept all of it or none of it imo.

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Being a lifelong Presbyterian, this just makes my heart sink.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100708/ap_on_re_us/us_presbyterians_gays

I am not one to know much scripture off the top of my head. But I do know what Leviticus 18:22 says. And it's fairly clear and to-the-point.

How can the Presby leaders hold the Word of God in such disregad when making policy??? I fear this may mean a split among Presbyterian churches across the country.

They're PCUSA, Don; the most liberal of the Presbyterian denominations. Is that what you are? I am an Orthodox Presbyterian (OPC) going to a Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) church. OPC and PCA take a conservative view (the right view) on this matter. It's really a shame to see what the PCUSA has become. :(

Dakota

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This is just another reason to back to the Bible. Denominations are the result of the "reformation" when people wanted to "reform" the catholic church. But what they needed was a "restoration" of the New Testament church. If we do what they did we will be who they were. I believe God is powerful enough to tell us His will and we can understand it. Anytime we accept a denominational doctrine over the Bible, we have chosen to reject God's way, and His will.

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That saddens me. Our country is in a dark time and headed to an even darker place. As great of a land as it is to live in, and as much as I love being a defender of freedom, it upsets me to see our country in so much sin. We have embraced a culture where we aim to please other people instead of doing what is right. 2 Timothy 4:3 says:

"For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."

I think this is a prime example of that verse.

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This same issue came up in the United Church I used to attend many years ago. I was on the reform committee to disguss and pray about the subject.

There was no need for the committee, since God's word is plain, but we all voted against allowing practicing homosexual pastors.

We submitted our conclusion to the pastor, and we were ignored.

There were many of us who left the church because of this issue, but there were many more who just blindly accepted it, and stayed.

It still surprises me today how so many people can just ignore God's word on different subjects like this, and just make their own rules to suit this sinful world.

In Daniel and Revelations it tells us how, in the last days, the churches will turn away from sound doctrine, and we can see it happening all around us today.

Stay strong in the Lord, and God be with you all.

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