Yea, I've killed my last 10 deer or so with a fixed blade Steelforce Phathead - cut on contact, thick blade, get a pass-through much of the time. I've double lunged deer with them and had specks to follow. Granted most of the time the deer is only 30-60 yards from the impact spot, but the blood trail is always terrible. My son hit a big one (pass through, vanes covered in blood), and pea sized drops to follow. We actually did not find the deer he shot. It was with a crossbow (in KY) so I'm thinking about trying an expandable. I've heard some good things about spitfires - may try those.