I really like using Hevi-steel in 3in 1 1/8 ounce 2's but they r gettin pretty expensive. My next choice is Winchester Drylocks 3in 11/4 2's for ducks. Geese i like Drylock 3 in BB's (cant recall the ounce). I usually buy the cheapest box of 2's or 3's for shootin crips.