i know what your saying , a while a go i seen a kid ( 10 -12 ) wearing saggy pants , his hat side ways , and his father you could tell was disappointed in his son , i was already in a bad mood to begin with , i basically told the kid he looked like a slob , his fathers eyes got bugged eyed , i went on saying straighten out your cap , pull up your pants , why would you want to look like your from the ghetto ,( i lived in one for about 20 yrs until we moved , ) his father was like you really need to listen to this stranger , that kid finally paid attention to detail and straighted up , his father thanked me . and not that long a go i had a talk with my nephew for trying to act ghetto , and he changed his attitude