Strut10

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  1. Re: Remington SP-10 Magnum Have not owned one. But I know a couple guys who used to use them. Used to. They are darn heavy. Unless you do very little walking, you will get tired of lugging it around. Snapper was a bit optimistic on the price. You may find a decent used one for around $700. But a new gun like the one you have pictured will run you in the $1100 ballpark...............around $950 for a wood/blued one. IMHO..........the SP-10 is a goose blind gun. If you've gotta have a 10 ga. to hunt turkeys, get the Browning pump. It's about 3-4 lbs. lighter. But, bear in mind, you will pay a price for that, too.
  2. Re: 3D Turkeys The ones Cabelas sell as there own brand are pretty nice and quite cost-efficient. Santa Claus brought my kids one this year. It's a nice target.
  3. Re: Awesome Find Here!!! I need to get me one of those!!
  4. Re: Anything New? It seems like I've always got a couple custom box calls on order. There is a possibility one of them may be here before spring season. I could really use a new vest, too. But I'm kind of attached the the beat up thing I've got now. Me and that vest have seen a lot of turkeys die. I'd have a hard time replacing it.
  5. Re: PA hunters is it a good thing or a bad thing? I say "good riddance". But whether it's good or bad depends on who's next. Personally, I think the biggest threat to PA deer and deer hunters is the DCNR. Here's a letter from the Unified Sportsmen of Pennsylvania that lays some pretty embarassing tidbits out that you may have missed in Outdoor Life or on the 6:00 news. (Kinda long, but a good read). Letter to Commissioner Russel E. Schleiden: December 22, 2004 Russell E. Schleiden, President Pennsylvania Game Commission Harrisburg, Pa. 17110 Dear President Schleiden: Following the most dismal deer season in the lifetime of most deer hunters, can it be that the Game Commission is plotting with DCNR to propose seasons and bag limits that will further reduce deer numbers on State Forest Lands? Before you venture too deeply into the planning process, may I suggest that you take a closer look at the sorry state of the deer herd on public land the way hunters have over this past deer season, and do not fall for DCNR’s highly exaggerated claim of being overrun with deer. Let me begin by saying this letter is not coming from a scorned hunter who is angry about not getting a deer. I killed a buck again this year and our camp continues to do well as a result of spending countless hours in the woods scouting. But we refuse to participate in the senseless slaughter of antlerless deer in our deer depleted environment and encourage others to refrain as well. It’s our small way of protesting the deer eradication plan which has reduced hunters to nothing more than deer management instruments. It troubles me deeply that the simple thrill of just seeing deer is being sapped unnecessarily from our traditional deer camps across Pennsylvania, just so the timber industry can experience greater profits. The fallout from this can be nothing short of catastrophic for the future of hunting in Pennsylvania. From my experience and virtually every deer hunter I have spoken to following this past season, it seems unconscionable that you could possibly seek further deer reduction, especially on public lands. I hunt exclusively in the Susquehannock State Forest in southern Potter County, specifically a rather large area from Cherry Springs to Cross Fork, and Oleona to Conrad. Granted, I can only report on what I experienced in my neck of the woods, and perhaps it’s different in other parts of the state. But I seriously doubt it. From what I hear the Sproul, Elk, Tiadaghton, and Bald Eagle State Forests are even worse than where I hunt. At the end of the 90’s following years of responsible and systematic deer reduction strategies, the quality of our deer herd was at it’s zenith, with the perfect blend of deer numbers and quality of bucks. Since that time you have implemented concurrent buck and doe seasons, DMAP, and issued previously unheard of numbers of antlerless deer permits encouraging hunters to kill multiple deer per season. This has resulted in the demise of over 2 million deer just from hunting! In addition we have a far greater predator problem in northern Pennsylvania than anybody cares to admit, and with the last two difficult winters thrown in we are very quickly approaching an unhuntable deer herd. Yes, you read that right. When hunters do not see a deer on the first day, or camps with over 20 hunters drive these mountains for days during deer and bear season only to see a handful of deer, one could certainly conclude that we are fast approaching an unhuntable deer herd. Personally I hunted bear for 2 days with my brother and we never saw a deer, and that was in a designated DMAP area where there is allegedly an excess of deer! Unfortunately this is not an isolated incident, which makes it easy to understand why DCNR cannot sell out it’s allotted DMAP permits. Why would hunters purchase deer tags to hunt where there’s no deer? Some would also argue that we are on the verge of violating Title 34. Section 322 outlines the duties of the Game Commission to “Serve the interest of sportsmen by preserving and promoting our special heritage of recreational hunting and fur taking by providing adequate hunting opportunity to hunt and trap the wildlife resources of this Commonwealth.” I’ll let the legal experts wrestle with that one, but they just may have a case – especially after next season. Based upon the demands laid out by DCNR in your meeting with them on Nov. 15, it’s laughable that they want the exact opposite of what needs to be done. We need shorter seasons and far fewer doe permits to remedy this problem. How can it be that hunters who combed these woods for weeks this fall looking for deer and other game, are so far apart from DCNR in their assessment of what’s out there? And it’s not because we didn’t venture “back in”. The reality of the matter is that in many cases the further “back in” you go, the less deer you see. Perhaps it’s because DCNR’s vision is clouded by dollar signs. We must keep in perspective that to a forester the only good deer is a dead deer. The biggest myth perpetrated upon the public is the carrying capacity of the land, and the notion that deer are the major inhibitors of forest regeneration. There’s no way that the few deer we have in our forests today are having a major impact on regeneration, especially oak regeneration which coincidently is a problem for every state in the east. There are many places across Pennsylvania where the soil is so poor that nothing can grow but mountain laurel and scrub oak. To base the carrying capacity upon the visual inspection of what grows there, without first factoring in the quality of the soil is unscientific at best, and nothing short of agenda driven. I’m guessing that DCNR doesn’t really know how many deer there are, nor do they care that much. Their primary motivation seems to be meeting the requirements of a California based firm named Scientific Certification Systems - the organization who certifies their timber. SCS says in their 2004 Recertification Report that DCNR must reduce deer densities which they claim are negatively impacting oak regeneration and biodiversity; in turn SCS will grant them certification and a premium price for their timber. So if we just follow the money trail as with so many political issues, we arrive at the real heart of the matter. Most people are also unaware that this Recertification Report which condemns deer was co-authored by Pennsylvanian Dave deCalesta, a long standing anti-deer advocate who worked with the Department of Forestry. How convenient! Interesting how these little tidbits of information never find their way out into the public; all we hear is just kill the deer. So the question becomes: Does the Game Commission cave in to the whining demands of DCNR and sell out their primary stakeholders – the license buying hunters; and become an accomplice to this money grubbing venture under the guise of deer management? It boggles my mind how the Game Commission bites the hand that feeds it. This deer eradication plan has to result in the loss of license revenue and Pitman-Robertson proceeds for the Game Commission, as well as income for thousands of retail outlets such as sporting goods stores, butcher shops, lodging establishments, and ultimately tax revenue for state. Maybe the ultimate objective is to put the Game Commission in such financial straits as a result of decreased license sales, that they will have no other recourse but to merge with DCNR. When that happens, God help us! There are undoubtedly places in Pennsylvania, primarily in the southern part of the state that require serious deer reduction strategies. Why then does the Game Commission seemingly ignore this problem, and cater so much of their efforts to DCNR and State Forest lands where deer numbers are least? Why have you based so much of your deer management plan on the input of a state agency whose primary motivation is money, and totally disregarded the voice of the sportsmen? Well Russ you can very soon count on hearing the voice of the sportsmen as well as legislators, in an unprecedented verbal assault precipitated by the deterioration of deer hunting in what was once the deer rich state of Pennsylvania. Growing up in Pennsylvania you know that deer hunting is a sacred institution in this state, and messing with it is something you do with extreme caution. Sportsmen have been more than patient during this 5 year experiment as deer numbers have plummeted, hanging on to the promise of more and bigger bucks. We are certainly not seeing more bucks, and it’s even debatable how many bigger bucks we have. Instead our deer numbers have been reduced to alarmingly low levels, and hunter satisfaction is at a low not seen in our lifetimes. The experiment has run it’s course. With Gary Alt now gone, perhaps it’s time to revisit the ideas of The Deer Management Working Group which held so much promise back in 1999, before they were unceremoniously cast aside to bring Dr. Alt on board. In either event I would hope you give strong consideration to your major stakeholder, the Pennsylvania sportsmen and sportswomen and by making some serious adjustments. Deer hunters can provide a more objective assessment about Pennsylvania’s deer herd than DCNR, because we are not motivated by money, and nobody spends more time out in the woods. Hunters will tell you there are many areas of the state where you should have a bucks-only season like they do in New York, and predators and winter mortality would likely keep the herd stable. Citizen Task Forces which have been bandied about for years, and are also in use in New York would probably arrive at the same conclusions. I guess that’s why they were never implemented in Pennsylvania…… The solution to this problem is real simple. If DCNR wants to reduce the deer herd on State Forests because they feel there are too many deer, they simply need to state their case by submitting a qualified deer census as a result of aerial infrared mapping techniques. I’m sure the Game Commission will respond by issuing DMAP tags and hunters will be more than happy to help them out! What could be fairer than that? Otherwise they should get on with the business of managing their forests, and leave the business of deer management up to the Game Commission. Gregory D. Levengood, Chairman of the Board Unified Sportsmen of Pennsylvania
  6. Re: Any opinions on this gun??? [ QUOTE ] try as many different shells (shot size, and brands) with as many different chokes you can.......... Ask around from friends and family if they have a choke (that will fit your gun) that you can borrow and try patterning it. [/ QUOTE ] Yep. What he said. Yep. The 1300 always turns in a solid performance. You should have no problems making a turkey-slayer out of yours.
  7. Re: Can\'t wait for revenge this spring. [ QUOTE ] Last year I missed a Big Gobbler ....... Had him in at least 50 yards. .......Probably too far away. [/ QUOTE ] Probably right. Patience is the most important thing you can take with you when you go after that bad boy this spring. Let him come. If he won't come..........try again tomorrow.
  8. Re: Are Benelli\'s good for the money? Depends on how much money you've got, I guess. I have yet to choose a Benelli.
  9. Re: Bow setup for turkey [ QUOTE ] I think that the poundage depends on what you can easily pull and hold with the minimum amount of movement.........shot placement is still the most important element regardless of poundage and broadhead selection but you know that already. [/ QUOTE ] Ditto. I would tell you to use the same exact setup you use for deer. The only exception may be that you would wanna turn the weight down a few pounds.......not much.
  10. Re: First ever Turkey Congrats on the longbeard for your first bird!! Really nice job on the fan, too. I like that.
  11. Re: Chrono / Reloading ?\'s It was in the mid 20's (temp-wise) when I was doing the shooting. However the gun and ammo had come straight outside from being at room temp. The barrel had one previous shot through it since a thorough, thorough cleaning. The charge was 82.0 gr. of 7828 in front of a Fed 215. Of the 5-shot string (not enough, I know........but it was cold out ) the low was the first round at 3498 fps. The other 4 were between 3557 fps and 3601 fps. Including the first shot, the S.D was 40.63. So I guess if I would have dropped that one slow shot from the string, the statistical numbers would have been pretty good, huh? This is all part in parcel to developing an accurate hunting load for absurd distances. So your insight is greatly appreciated, AJ. Do you know of one .284 hunting bullet that may be inherently more accurate than another? Preferrably a boattail to keep the BC high. Right now I'm trying Accu-Bonds. I haven't tested enough to give a verdict on them yet. Thinking about trying CT Ballistic Silvertips and Nosler Ballistic Tips. I think for downrange performance I'll try to stick with 140 grainers.
  12. After a brief session with some handloads and my chronograph, I have two questions. 1. What would cause the first shot to chrono approximately 100 fps slower than the subsequent shots? 2. What is an acceptable "extreme spread" and "standard deviation" for a belted magnum?
  13. Re: BSA scopes I own one BSA scope............. an 8X32 Platinum Target. It's on a 10 lb .220 Swift so it takes no beating whatsoever. Mechanically, it is, thus far, flawless. Optically............. well............. it ain't an 8X32 Burris. But it didn't cost $500, either. Rule of thumb: Spend as much on optics as you can afford (or more) and you'll be glad you did somewhere down the road.
  14. Re: Gun confiscation has started in Canada My dad's famous quote: "The ACLU.............champions for every cause detrimental to our society." A-Men!!!
  15. Re: who all is going to have a WHITE Christmas?? Probably will. Just got ,pretty much, rid of the snow we had on the ground. But it sounds like after tomorrow it's coming again. Bah!! Humbug!!!!!!!
  16. Re: Any Pecan farmers????? Cute little buggers, them pecan pickers are!!! Sorry to hear about the bum luck with your paper shells. I know absolutely nothing about pests in pecans. But if you'd wanna send me a peck of them natives, I'd be happy to open each one and "inspect" them for any other types of infestations.
  17. Re: Gun confiscation has started in Canada [ QUOTE ] Drinking alcohol is a right, but not everyone can do it can they? [/ QUOTE ] Nope. Privilege
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    Re: Gas Prices? $1.699 / gal. at the cheapest places. $1.799 most places.
  19. Re: Anybody Getting That Itch??? My itch to hear gobblers is a 24-7-365 deal. When I'm sitting in my treestand in archery season waiting for a monster buck............I'm thinking about spring gobbler hunting.
  20. Re: Gun confiscation has started in Canada [ QUOTE ] I personally believe that gun ownership is a privilege [/ QUOTE ] And what you believe is WRONG. The Second Ammendment is not a part of the "Bill of Privileges". [ QUOTE ] I would much rather have gun ownership regulated than let any old joe be able to walk into a store and buy a gun. [/ QUOTE ] And it already is regulated to the point of being strangulated. "Any old joe" must pass the instant check every time he attempts to purchase a firearm. I don't have a problem with that. Felons, alcoholics, druggies, illegal aliens, mental patients and people whose citizenship is not "in good standing" should not enjoy the same rights as a law-abiding citizen. [ QUOTE ] A criminal was a law abiding citizen at some point. [/ QUOTE ] So you wanna regulate everyone as "guilty until proven innocent"??????? [ QUOTE ] And the Bill of Rights is not a god given UN-alienable right, our UN-alienable rights... [/ QUOTE ] That's "inalienable", by the way.
  21. Re: Sportsman for bush... [ QUOTE ] Bet thats it, the majority of the people in your state are wrong and your right, how could they be so stupid [/ QUOTE ] No, Horst. The majority of the people in America are wrong and Sluggo's right. Liberals are just the only ones smart enough and compassionate enough to really know what's good for the dumb, uneducated, conservative lugs...........like me.
  22. Re: New GUn For Tookeys! Looks to be a very functional gun. But maaaaan is it uuuugggg-ly!!!!
  23. Re: Sportsman for bush... [ QUOTE ] ........and Bush's God-like status do not exist here and the rising poverty level is an indication that the economy sucks....... [/ QUOTE ] Hard to imagine that W won the popular vote by 13% in such desperate times in your state.........John Edwards' state. Maybe there's a lot of folks down that way who don't see their futures as dismally as you think.
  24. Re: Gun confiscation has started in Canada [ QUOTE ] I think I'm gonna let my registration lapse on my truck just in case they want to do a vehicle round up, I mean, a vehicle is a legally owned item, why should I have to register it, it's mine, I don't want the government to know I have it cause they might take it from me. [/ QUOTE ] Spoken like a person whose been truly blinded by the blathering liberal agenda of our day. Truck ownership is a privilege. It is not a God-given, inalienable right........guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States of America. Forgive me for being one of those extremist, whacko, Christian members of the vast right-wing conspiracy who believes the Constitution means what it says.
  25. Re: benelli nova?? I don't own one. But I have shot them. I don't care for the gun. It feels too "tinny" and cheap to me. The ones i have fired shot O.K. But for my money, I'd pick a Remington 870 over the Nova any day. Right now the 870 is $199 (after the rebate) at Dick's. Dunno if you have a Dick's Sporting Goods near you or not. There's one in Lee's Summit, two in K.C. and one in Independence.