Bow Hunter Derek

Re: world hunt competition This is absolutely the worst thing that can happen in the "hunting" world. Now there are a lot of things that go on in hunting that I flat do not agree with, but most I bite my tonge on. This one, I just can't do that with. If this actually flies it will be the death of hunting as we know it. It will either 1) suceed and further fuel the high dollar rich man's game that hunting is becoming, or 2) it will be the ultimate weapon for PETA and the anti's to use in painting an incorrect general picture of hunting. The public out cry on this will be nasty (as it should be). Now is the time to stop this thing before the mass media gets a hold of this. The moment that news of this is aired on the nightly news or a morning news show and John Q. Public hears of it, hunting as we know it will be forever comprimised and attacked in a way that we have never seen before. Right now, I wear a camo hat out in public with pride. Almost to the level that I can wear a pin of the USA flag or a cross on a chain. If this thing actually goes forward, wearing a camo hat in public WON'T be an option anymore. The only way to stop this is to go after the money that will be bank rolling this thing. The sponsors need to hear from us. Emails, mail, faxes, and phone calls. Further hit them where it hurts and don't spend your money with them. Tell them that you are going to let every hunter you know about their affiliation with the WHA. We have to stop this. We owe it to our past heritage, to everything that we hold dear to us about hunting, and to the future of hunting.

Re: Anybody using the AIR-REST, looks cool? As I understand it, there is a special insert that you put in at the front of your arrow that contains a magnet of opposite polorization from the rest. As you draw back, the arrow slides along the bottom of the rest until the very end of the draw cycle. At that time, the arrow raises due to the magnetic effects. Besides the expense factor, one down side that I've read is what happens if you allow your bow to creep from full draw, the arrow will fall off center. Further, as I understand it, letting down from full draw can be noisy as the arrow falls from the magnetic field. All I know is what I've read about them. I'll stick with a much simpler rest.

Re: Final spring turkey count Bow Hunter Derek = 1 Total 8

Re: Team Gobbling Thunder (#7) I guess I missed that in reading through the rules. Thanks for the Bday wishes all.

Re: Team Gobbling Thunder (#7) Deadline is the 12th. I'm tryin to help Joebobhunter4 get his info posted up in the coming days.

Re: Deboning pike!! I sure wish I'd seen this before my trip to Canada. We caught a ton of pike while we were bear hunting. We cooked a bunch up on night. Those Y bones were a pain (litterally) to pick around. I knew there had to be a way to do it.

Re: Team Gobbling Thunder (#7) It looks like Joebobhunter4 and Tailfeathers need to get their info submitted. They are not showing up in our scores (neither am I, but that is taken care of). That would give us 5 birds for the team and if my math is correct would give us around 294 points. That puts us in first place as of today. With most hunters done and out, that just might be enough to win this thing.

Re: Team Gobbling Thunder (#7) [ QUOTE ] Congrats Tail_Feathers Bow Hunter Derek your score hasn't been posted yet. Did you post your form. Your score won't be posted with out it. [/ QUOTE ] I've been in Canada bear hunting. I just got back and posted the form earlier today. Check out my bear pictures in the Big Game forum.

Well all, I made it back from Saskatchewan and did not get eaten like my kids feared. All in all, what an awesome time. The weather did not cooperated at all though. I did not realize that bears like it sunny and 70. We had 40's and rain. So needless to say, we did not see many bears. This was pretty much a do it yourself hunt, so that made any bear taken that much more rewarding. I say do it yourself, because even though in Saskatchewan you have to have a guide, this was not a "guided" hunt. I have a buddy who is a licensed outfitter, but is only one so that he and a small group can go bear hunting every year on their own. He does not run it as a business like most outfitters. He has a friend in Canada who is a licensed guide, but is retired from hunting. He just hangs out at camp. He gets paid in free food, cold beers, and campfire gossip. So, after a 38 hour truck ride the real work began. Baiting, hanging stands, clearing roads in some cases. Two weeks of fun. We had access to 330,000 acres of total wilderness. The nearest gas or pay phone was a 2 hour drive away on the nastiest dirt (mud) roads you could ever imagine. No cell phone service. The closest medical facility was a 6 hour drive again over muddy roads. This place was literally life and death up there. One mistake and it could get ugly real fast. Of the 10 of us that went up, we took 6 bears, all with bows. No guns. In the middle of the hunting, we had to move camp approximately 14 miles southeast due to all the rain and the fact that roads were washing away fast. If we had not moved camp, we might still be up there. I took arguably the nicest bear of the bunch on my 4th night out hunting. I shot a beautiful 250# boar at 20 yards with my bow. His coat did not have any rub marks and was in perfect condition. He was out cruising looking for sows when he made the mistake of coming too close to me. He was a magnificent animal to watch. The coolest thing I've ever hunted. Unfortunately, now it is time to join the real world and get back to work.

Re: 2006 RT Forum\'s Turkey Contest Photo Thread I'm back. Here is my form from my bird from before I left.

Re: 2006 RT Forum\'s Turkey Contest Photo Thread Here is mine for Team #7 from this morning. 21 pounds 7/8" spurs 9 1/2" beard

Well, it has been the most frustrating year that I've ever had as a turkey hunter. No gobbles, not seeing birds, too many hunters, just one thing after another. My wife did not want me to go hunting this morning as it is Mother's Day and I am leaving later today to go bear hunting. But a little pouting last night got me the nod to go. One condition. My tail had to be in church at 9:00. So, I went out to where I had had birds working yesterday morning. I left the bow in the truck and picked up the shot gun. No more messing around! I got a bird to gobble at 6:15 several hundred yards away. I moved in and he flew down. He was working away from me non stop and I was running out of property real fast! I set up on him 4 times. Finally, I came up over a rise to a clearing and poked my head around a bush. There was a hen at 30 yards. I just stood there like a rock and decided to wait. Then he gobbled, barely 50 yards away, but out of view due to a small rise in the field. So I waited, while he gobbled. After about 15 minutes, I saw a red hed pass behind a bush, so I raised the gun and got ready for him to step out to the other side. Just then the hen cut and ran. I took one step forward and raised to my tippy toes and leveled the gun. There was the big red head I'd been looking for. He was looking right back at me, so I let the hammer down. At 50 yards, the 870/Rhino choke tube/Winchester #5 combination dropped him stone cold dead at 7:15 am, just in time to go to church. It was a shoot now or eat your tag moment. I don't like that long of a shot, but I could not bear not carring that bird out of the woods. Needless to say, I am so releived. What a long frustrating season it has been. I leave in a few hours to go bear hunting for two weeks in Saskatchewan, so this could not be more timely to make the long ride more pleasureable. Here he is. 21#, 7/8" spurs, and 9 1/2" beard.

Re: Team Gobbling Thunder (#7) Here is a photo.

Re: Team Gobbling Thunder (#7) PUT ON ON THE BOARD BABY! Last day of our season, Mother's Day, so I have to go to church, then lunch, then leaving for two weeks going bear hunting in Saskatchewan. And at 7:30 this morning and the final buzzer closing in ... SCORE! Official stats. 21# 7/8" spurs 9.5" beard. Shotgun, not bow as I had planned. I'm getting ready to leave, so I'll post up the photos and submit the form when I get back in town. I should be back around Memorial Day. Man, I love this game.

Re: GPS units ???? Yea, that is an awesome deal. I think I paid around $150 for my legend alone.

Re: scentlok/blocker Nick, your a good guy. I don't envy your position, out trying to sell a product to guys like me. I really respect you for what you are doing. Allthough working for hunting related company would be pretty cool. If nothing else, the nerd in me likes playing with the numbers and the physics behind something like this.

Re: scentlok/blocker You simply can not regenerate carbon with warm dry air. The physics don't support it. If you could, every test lab in nearly every plant in the country would have a small drying oven to regenerate (even though not 100% efficient) carbon from small lab adsorber units. For the record, I've not bashed the product. Science is science. Business is business. The two are two entirely different concepts.

Re: scentlok/blocker I'm sorry, but as an engineer, I still can't buy into it. The fundamental element in regenerating carbon is steam, which you aknowledged in your response to my initial question. For those who don't know, steam acts as a carrier vessel for the contaminants on the carbon. The heat allows the release of the contaminants and the steam molecules act as the carrier. The problem with the house hold dryer is that while a wet garment will produce humid air, it does not produce "steam". Steam is produced when when the water source reaches above the boiling point or is in a pressure state that allows it to reach the saturation curve on a phsycometric chart. In true regeneration, the air is superheated. At 140 deg F, a wet garment in a dryer only produces humid air, not steam. The steam that you see outside of your dryer vent on a cold day is the result of a sudden temperature drop at which point, the temperature drops past the dew point for the given conditions of the air stream. It is not truely steam. OK, so I could see how water molecules in humid air could act somewhat as a carrier for some of the contaminates on the carbon. But there is not enough energy in the air or free water molecules to provide significant regeneration or reactivation (you call it what you want, but all scientific data that I have uses the terms interchangeably at 1,400 deg F temperature ranges). At 140 deg. F and full saturation, you are only talking approximately 200 BTU per pound of dry air. Now I don't know the exact dimensions of a house hold dryer drum, but let's say it is somewhere around 14 cu.ft. At 140 deg F that would mean that there is only about 185 BTU of energy in the air in the dryer. Folks, that is not very much. There is a reason it is not very much, you don't want to destroy your clothes. Further, you did state that "steam" was needed. So then how can you possibly regenerate a garment that has not been washed. You said that you can wash a garment up to 20 times before it starts to break down, but can just throw it in the dryer any number of times. A dry garment in a dryer produces no more moisture than what the general humidity of the air is at that time. Doing so simply shifts you to the right on a phsyc chart and actually decreases your relative humidity. So how is it that the garment can "regenerate" on low level heat alone? That goes against all thermodyanmic priciples right there. Sorry, I'm not out to knock your company, but until there are unbiased labs tests done by a group that has no affiliation to the carbon garment industry, I won't believe any test data that you guys can supply. I'm in business, I know how easy it is to sway a 3rd party to bias data. As an engineer, I know how easy it is to make the numbers look to one's favor. Thermo and physics don't lie. I just don't see how it is possible for these garments to work as claimed.

Re: scentlok/blocker OK, I'll be the first to jump on this. I'm not going to bash the product. My belief is that if a product makes you more confident as a hunter, then you will be a better hunter, regardless if the product is legitimate or not. So here goes. Like I said, I'm a licensed PE (mechanical engineer). I have a pretty diverse background in environmental applications for industry. In that time, I worked with several projects utilizing carbon adsorbtion. In my experience, carbon is an awesome tool for the capture of VOC's, fumes, and odors. The only problem with carbon is that once the carbon particals are saturated then they are useless ... until regeneration. Now, to reactivate or regenerate carbon, it must be heated. Carbon must be heated to a MINIMUM of 1,400 deg F and often as high as 1,700 deg F to be reactivated. In doing so 10% to 20% of the carbon is typically lost in the process as it breaks down on a molecular level. This must be made up with new virgin carbon. You can typically regenerate carbon in an industrial application for 30% or so less than just starting out will all new material. A cost savings, but it still can be quite expensive. So, as an engineer, I have to totally question the carbon suites all together. Lets assume that when you first put on your suit, it is 100% ready to go and not already saturated. Carbon is carbon folks. When you've worn it for a few days hunting, even with all the best storage care, it will become saturated with your smells and other odors. So then how in the world is a simple clothes dryer going to regenerate carbon. I'm not sure exactly how hot a clothes dryer gets, but I know it surely does not even approach 1,400 deg F. So, I guess my question for the carbon suit manufactures is how is it that your carbon can magically regenerate at such low temperatures? I have yet to get this question directly answered. Is this some new special carbon that no one has utiltized. If it is, then boy are you guys missing the boat. Because I know of hundreds of industrial applications that would kill to have this low temp regeneration carbon. They would save a ton of money every year regenerating carbon at a low temperature. Sorry if I sound like I'm trying to ruffle feathers. I'm not. I'm simply and engineer who is struggling to wrap my brain around a concept that defies all laws of physics and chemistry.

Re: What are you getting new for next year? Absolutely nothing. Recently bought a new Switchback XT. Did not really need a new bow, but just "had to have it". The only thing I want to spend any more money on in 2006 is ........ TAXIDERMY work.

Re: scentlok/blocker It's your money so go for it if it gives you confindence. Personally, I'd use the money to buy a high quality set of camo that is quiet and water proof and in a pattern that blends in with your area. I've spent much more on good camo gear than a Dream Season suit will ever cost. Scent free tubs/soaps/good hygene will do more than any saturated carbon in a suit any day. I'm an engineer that has worked with carbon adsorption technology before. There is NO WAY that a carbon suit can work as claimed. It is absolutely not possible from an engineering perspective. The carbon is saturated before you ever buy the suit and can not be effectively regenerated without destroying the fabric of the suit. Again, it is your money and if it adds to your confidence than by all means buy the product. I'll use my money on other products that actually work.

Re: Realtree Turkey Team #7 OK, the years of slam dunk turkey hunting must be over. Last night, my daughter and I went out hunting in the blind, behind the in-laws. Sat for 3 hours never saw or heard anything. So, we pack up and leave. As we pull away from the farm, I can look down a small lane at the north end right where I can legally stop hunting. There he is. Full strut all by himself. We pulled over the truck and I watched him for 10 minutes through the binos. He was full strut and gobbling his head off. I could not see any hens, but that does not mean they were not in the woods. Just as I'm about ready to pull away, he flies up to roost. It was around 8:15. I knew the exact group of trees that he was in, so my plan for this morning was put together. Slam dunk. Walk in on the grass lane staying in the shadows of the trees, real early, and set up less than 100 yards from him. One decoy and very very soft purrs and clucks. Shot gun, no messing with a bow and blind in the morning. It was time for redemption! So, I rolled out of bed this morning at 4:00 and was set up within 100 yards of the group of trees I saw him fly into by 5 :15. Legal time to shoot was around 6:00. A cat could not have been quieter stalking in on this bird. Yet, at the crack of dawn, nothing. Not a gobble, not a yelp, not a cluck, not so much as the sound of wings. He vanished in the night. I've heard of them moving in the night before or even bouncing from tree to tree as they get settled into the roost. It had to have been what happened. It was a SLAM DUNK! Man I'm frustrated. I can't get a bird to so much as look my direction. Heck, I'm not even hearing them. Hello, my name is Derek "Cuz" Craig. I used to be a proficient turkey hunter. Now I'm just an idiot sitting against a tree scratching on a stone with a stick.

Re: Realtree Turkey Team #7 Wow, this is the most frustrated I've ever been as a turkey hunter. I've only ever been skunked one season and at least that season I shot at and missed one with the bow. I've yet to see even so much as a jake this year. I've only seen 3 hens in almost 2 weeks of hunting. I'm hearing gobbles, but they are way far away on properties I can't hunt. My honey hole spots are turning into dud spots this year. Only a few days left in our season. I'm hoping something develops in the coming days.

Re: lumenoks? There is a way to build them so they turn on when you shoot, just like a luminock. Look in the hunting gear section. I posted how I make them a while back. It works pretty good. The only thing to remember is that these bobber lights are cheap, so they are made cheap. Sometimes, you get a dud.

Re: Hunting trips I am leaving on May 19th for Northern Saskatchewan bow hunting for black bear. I'll get back home on Memorial Day. 330,000 acres all to our selves. My buddy owns a guide service up there and goes every year. Every year, everyone tags out. It'll be a blast.