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Once he figures out if he will be going or not, I will figure out how to keep us all updated. It could be a challenge but I am willing to figure something out. There are all kinds of resources out there that could work, internet phones and satellite phones or post cards.

To try and take at least a tiny bit of recoil out of it. I will not be doing the brake as soon as I get it though, so if I can range shoot it and not be bruised after 20 shots or so, I will leave it off. Also, I will continue to use my 270 for all my antelope and deer hunts. If I have the chance to elk hunt I will bust out the 300. It will be a range gun 95% of the time. Also, I have been carrying a 60lbs decoy bag on my back for the past 3 months walking 1-2 miles into my hunting sets. This has got me trained pretty well. Also, with my weight loss and excercise I feel that I am in good enough shape to carrying this thing around. Plan to keep up the excercise and hike all over the state of washington this summer. My prep for hunting season will be golden and I doubt I will have any troubles if I do get the opportunity to hunt elk. Yes, I will still get frustrated at the heavy gun if I do take it out in the woods, but I will survive. I've never had anything bigger than my 270, so I want to go bigger, I want to be able to shoot 600-1000 yards at the range, I want ammo that I can purchase anywhere since I dont have any of my reloading stuff anymore and I want a 30 cal without getting a 30.06 or 308. The 300wm seems to be my best choice.

you have a PM

Are you going to be hunting?

will your cell phone work? Need to take someone with you?

Nothing bad Sir, just a habit of my upbringings.

"In Oklahoma, you don't marry for love, you marry for safety in case of tornados. 'Baby, there's a tornado, get on top of me' " From CMTs 20 Greatest Redneck moments I heard this 2 seconds ago and cant stop laughing.

Given all patterns are completely equal, it all comes down to 100% shot placement and aiming skills. I can not justify the cost of the BCs over the same size shells for half the cost. But if you do try them, good luck! The ones I have shot killed birds dead.

I think I have decided to go with a Rem700 300WM Sendero SF II. Hopefully will be able to find someone locally to throw on a brake for me. Not sure of the glass yet, but have heard a lot of good things about Millet Tac stuff. So, I might look into them. Now, we just have to see what that bonus is going to look like come Feb 1st.

I have seen these before but not sure of the effect

You are correct about the ballistics, pretty much the exact same. The ammo for the WM is more availible than the WSM but, I live in big game country so in my area ammo for both is easily found. The biggest difference and only realy difference is the short throw of the bolt and it's way easier to glass the WSM, easier to gain eye relief without adding a rail to the gun. I keep going back and forth between the two. I found the Tikka T3 that looks like a decent gun, and a little cheaper than the 700. But I like the 700. Whatever gun I get, I will be doing trigger work to it to get it down to the 32oz mark.

I have shot 3.5BB at geese in Black cloud and 3" #2s for duck in Black cloud. Hammered both of them dead, but then again, any other shell I shoot through my gun hammers them dead. I think I am just a dang good shot with my gun because no matter what I use I kill birds. With the research I have done, I now shoot the cheapest things I can find and have zero problems killing loads of birds. Now, put a different gun in my hand or a buddies gun and I cant hit the broad side of a barn with the first two boxes of shells. I honestly dont think shells matter at all. As long as they fire, they will kill whatever it is they are aimed at. If the aiming sucks then they dont kill and thats not the shells fault. Buy cheap and practice often, thats my motto and it's working greatly for me.

You are wrong and wrong a second time.

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Fixed that for you Orlan. Glad to see you still lurking around these parts.

Ok, I should have stated in the OP that I do not want a 30.06. I know its great, been around a long time and you can always find ammo, but i just dont have the desire to own one. I do plan on shooting 500-1000 yards with this gun. Maybe not in a hunting scenario, but at the range. From what I have gathered and researched.... My 270 is plenty gun for antelope, deer and elk. I do not need a new gun to kill these animals. It all comes down to needs vs. wants. Now, the ones I am thinking about are the 300wm, 300wsm, 7mm stw and 338mag. 300wm - easy to find ammo, kicks like a mule, but will kill anything I want it to. 300wsm - not as easy to find ammo, kicks like a mule and will kill anything 7mm stw - expensive to purchase a rifle, expensive ammo, check off list 338mag - doesnt kick as much as the 300s, not as easy to find ammo. will kill anything. Will drop off big time after 400 yards. I want something fast, flat and accurate. I hate drop off. With this new post, now pick my rifle.

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Cool pics Sir! Are you in your treestand in that last pic?

I dont see Washington on there.

Cute pup kiddo. May she bring your family tons of fun and happiness.

Good luck buddy. Good thoughts will be with you. Stay safe in your travels!

That looks great. We let nature do ours. (we found it already euro completed) I dont want to take away from your thread, but will post pics if you want to see others.

Dang you Bob! This thought has been in my head the whole time. Should I continue to use the 270, shoot my normal 140grs and hunt with no worries of killing all these big animals out west?

unfortunately I do not reload anymore, had to sell all my stuff when I was unemployeed, so I shall be buying factory loads for a while.