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Re: Best way to hang deer? [ QUOTE ] Gambrel though I have hung them by the neck. I bet I could give you the exact cuts of meat from the same age deer from the same property that are hung differnently and you nor anyone else could tell the difference. OK, maybe I wouldn't bet. LMBO [/ QUOTE ] I agree. I also know people that don't even hang their deer. I can't imagine the warm weather in the south permits much if any hanging time. As far as effecting the cuts of meat, I don't think which end you hang them from effects that at all.

Re: Official Deer Season Countdown Thread 30 days exactly for me.

Re: Wildlife Officers Use DNA Evidence To Solve Cold C i thought this was a cool story. Not to mention the good guys won!

Re: PAINTED DESERT RAM great ram. I have plans to do an axis and either audad or mouflon hunt in Feb down there. Not at the same ranch but in texas non the less.

Re: SD Realtree forum get-together Whats the status of this thing Dakota?

Re: Grunt calls I use a couple custom calls from Southern Outlaw game Calls. www.southernoutlaw.com

Re: Elk Contest ?? [ QUOTE ] Tomorrow elk season starts, at least in Colorado. What was the decision determining the winner and teams and such???? Are we going to follow the deer contest rules? [/ QUOTE ] I sent some questions i had about ti to Dakota and haven't herd anything back yet.

Re: Best way to hang deer? I take a rope or chain and put it around the bsae od the head and hang them from a loader by the head.

Re: Gangs Not a sign of them around here. I have never seen any gang anything around Hurley and Yankton SD.

8/21/2006 Division of Wildlife Wildlife Officers Use DNA Evidence To Solve Cold Case ~ Bear Digs Up Skull Buried by Poacher ~ In 2002, Charles Pedraza was hunting elk in the mountains of south-central Colorado when he shot a bull moose. For almost four years he thought he got away with it. But on August 9, 2006 he had his day of reckoning when a Chaffee County judge ordered him to pay $11,391 for poaching. Several factors helped the Colorado Division of Wildlife (DOW) solve the case. There was high-tech DNA lab work, a couple of anonymous tips, good, old-fashioned investigative work and the help of a bear who unknowingly dug up evidence the poacher buried when he was trying to hide his crime. Colorado District Wildlife Manager Ron Dobson knew that an occasional moose wandered the hills in his district. Over the years since they were reintroduced to Colorado in 1978 moose had been known to wander for hundreds of miles throughout the mountains and foothills. But there are only a handful of areas where moose are found in high enough numbers to warrant a hunting season. “Every year, the Division of Wildlife reminds elk hunters that they must clearly identify their target before shooting,” said Dobson. The trail that connected Charles Pedraza to the moose skull found by Dobson began in the summer of 2003 when a Chaffee County resident called Ron to tell him about an unusual skull laying out in the open above the Mary Murphy Mine site up on Pomeroy Gulch. Dobson found the skull and recognized it as a moose with the antlers cut off. There were teeth marks on the skull and bear scat nearby. Dobson began looking around and found a black plastic trash bag with bits and pieces of bone fragments and moose hair that apparently had been dug up by a bear. “It was obvious to me, that whoever killed the moose went to a great deal of trouble to conceal the crime by burying portions of the hide and skull,” said Dobson. If it hadn’t been for the bear, the evidence might still be buried. Dobson didn’t have much to go on, but he took photographs and kept the skull as evidence in the event he might get a lead someday. That day came a couple of years later when an anonymous tipster called the “Operation Game Thief” hotline with information that Charles Pedraza illegally shot a moose during the 3rd rifle elk season in 2002. What puzzled officers was that the tipster said the poaching incident took place near Walden – 200 miles away. A search of Colorado hunting license records indicated Pedraza had a cow elk license for the Pomeroy Gulch area, but was never issued a moose hunting license. Wildlife officers attempted to contact Pedraza but found out the suspect had moved from Colorado Springs to Oshkosh, Wisconsin. So the DOW enlisted the help of the United States Fish and Wildlife Service who sent an agent in Wisconsin to talk with Pedraza. During a recorded interview in August of 2005, Pedraza was asked if he knew anything. He confessed to shooting a bull moose on Pomeroy Gulch but claimed it was an accident. Pedraza told the investigator he didn’t report it because he was afraid the DOW wouldn’t let him keep the meat so he removed the hide and antlers and then quartered the moose and carried most of it out before burying the legs and skull. That day four years ago when Pedraza shot the moose, it was snowing hard. For the next six months the Colorado high country would be covered with snow. As far as Pedraza knew, his trail had gone cold. He didn’t know that Dobson had found the skull and was waiting for the day he could catch the poacher. In the summer of 2005, Pedraza stashed the pelt in a storage unit in Colorado Springs and moved to Wisconsin. During his interview with the federal wildlife agent, Pedraza said he was planning to return to the storage shed in a few weeks to get the rest of his things. Wildlife officers waited for him, but he never showed up. Dobson knew he had a good case, but he still needed a major piece of evidence to cement the deal, so he got a search warrant. Dobson opened the storage unit and found a moose pelt and photos that put Pedraza at the scene of the crime. Dobson sent samples to a lab in Wyoming to run a DNA test. Bingo. The DNA from the hide in the storage shed and the skull Dobson found on the hillside were a perfect match. With his new found evidence, Dobson phoned Pedraza at his home in Wisconsin in December of 2005 and made arrangements for Pedraza to return to Colorado to turn himself in. Pedraza asked if it would be okay to wait until Christmas as he had planned to return to Colorado for the holidays. Dobson agreed, but Pedraza didn’t show. After the holidays, Dobson contacted Pedraza to inform him that he still had the option to turn himself in voluntarily. This time Dobson made sure Pedraza knew that it would be his last chance to settle the matter without being arrested and extradited, and having several other individuals who helped get the moose out also charged. Pedraza agreed, and over the next several weeks Pedraza’s attorney made arrangements through the Chaffee County District Attorney’s office to schedule a court date. “This case is a good example of how a citizen’s tip can be combined with old-fashioned detective work and high-tech DNA evidence can solve a cold case,” said Dobson. “We had a lot of good evidence, including a statement from the tipster and the skull dug up by the bear, but it was the DNA link that connected all the dots. “Colorado takes poaching very seriously. Someone might think they have gotten away with a crime, but eventually we will track them down and bring them to justice,” he added. Additional fines for poaching trophy-sized big game animals are the result of the so-called “Samson Law” passed in 1998. The law places mandatory fines on top of existing penalties. Anyone convicted of poaching a bull moose is subject to a $10,000 surcharge. Other fines range from $4,000 for a trophy-sized antelope buck and up to $25,000 for a bighorn sheep. Once again during this year’s hunting seasons wildlife officers will ramp up patrols to watch for poachers. But it is not the game wardens alone who will be watching. In today’s age of cell phones and satellites, every citizen out there can help solve poaching cases. If you have information about a poaching crime, call 1-877-COLO-OGT, Verizon cell phone users can dial #OGT, or via e-mail at [email protected]. Callers can remain anonymous and are eligible for a cash reward if the information provided leads to a citation.

Re: Taking kids hunting 12 yrs old is the min age in the 4 states we hunt. Dad started taking me around 8 yrs old.

Re: Gangs [ QUOTE ] The gangs ain't nowhere around my house thery're just in the same county. [/ QUOTE ] Who cares, I'd move to a safer area.

Re: help wanted [ QUOTE ] That would be awsome the only thing is I dont want to move if I lived their im sure I would be doing that kinda work. [/ QUOTE ] With the rotation location doesn't matter a whole lot. i know alot of guys that drive 12-14 hrs to work their hitch.

Re: help wanted [ QUOTE ] What are the hours like? Rotations? or what? [/ QUOTE ] Hours in most oilfield situations are 12-14 hr days. offshore is typically 14/14 and typically a landrig is a 7/7 rotation. I'm currios to hear what this one is.

Re: caged hunt\'s or in fenced area . Take this into consideration. You work with a few guys always bragging about their weekend trips to the woods. You know nothing about hunting, have never been exposed to it etc. Ok what do you do. Find a place that offers hunts for a fee, go to a store and have them pick out everything you will need. You go hunting and then have a ton of people jumping you for not knowing anything and trying to enjoy the outdoors. Does this make sence? Has anyone ever thought of this scenario? I'd bet in all your ranting nobody ever thought of this. On another board i belong to a single mother was looking for an outfiiter for her son who is 14 and wants to learn about hunting. She got many offers of people close by that would take him so she didn't need an outfitter but her situation very much could have been the same. Just think outside the box and don't be so narrow minded is all I'm asking. BTW what exactly is "real" hunting? Your definition and someone elses could be very different. For some city people this is as real as it might get. I*t is still "hunting and needs to be defended even if you don't like it. hey it might just keep one kid off drugs or out of jail and to me thats worth it.

Re: 2 of my Deer mounts good looking mounts

Re: help wanted Where is he working right now, and what company? Is it oilfield work or is it coalbed methane drilling?

Re: help wanted Steve I worked as a Derrik hand and would love to go back to a land rig 7/7 rotation instead of the offshore 14/14 I'm working now. I'll take a roughnecking job as long as I'm not a derrikhand again. You have my number.

Re: Fun question... I know Monica can cook and I can't so she has my vote.

Re: caged hunt\'s or in fenced area . I have hunted twice behing fences, once at the Pitts ranch in OK about 20K acres, and the whitney ranch in Tx about 40K acres. Both hunts I didn't even know I was behind a fence. I am not trying to start a fight, and I don't support the small enclosures but I'm also saying until you have done it how much do you really know about the subject? I have plans to take my 6yr old nephew back down there for an axis and audad/mouflan hunt this february. Just saying don't klnock it til ya try it.

Re: Ah Back in the Dating Game good luck on #2

Dear Mr. Ex President Clinton: I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "Thank me, I voted for Clinton-Gore." So, I sat down and reflected on that, and I am sending my "Thank you" for what you have done, specifically: 1. Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broderick and a host of other bimbos. Did I leave anyone out? 2. Thank you for teaching my 8 year old about oral sex. I had really planned to wait until he was a little older to discuss it with him, but now he knows more about it than I did as a senior in college. 3. Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment in the work place (especially the White House) and on the job is OK, and all you have to know is what the meaning of "is" is. It really is great to know that certain sexual acts are not sex, and one person may have sex while the other one does NOT have sex. 4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of impeachment to a new generation and demonstrating that the ridiculous plot of the movie "Wag the Dog" could be plausible after all. 5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent, Gerald Ford look graceful, Richard Nixon look honest, Lyndon Johnson look truthful, and John Kennedy look moral. 6. Thank you for the 73 House and Senate witnesses who have pled the 5th Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the country to avoid testifying about Democratic campaign fund raising. 7. Thank you, for the 19 charges, 8 convictions, and 4 imprisonment's from the Whitewater "mess" and the 55 criminal charges and 32 criminal convictions (so far) in the other " Clinton" scandals. 8. Thanks also for reducing our military by half, "gutting" much of our foreign policy. You reduced the U.S. Navy from 600+ ships to 200+ insuring that we can't fight a two front war any longer and are no longer as safe from invasion as we once were. That is some achievement and surely something you are feeling smug about. 9 Thank you, also, for "finding" millions of dollars (I really didn't need it in the first place, and I can't think of a more deserving group of recipients for my hard-earned tax dollars) for all of your globe-trotting. I understand you, the family and your cronies have logged in more time aboard Air Force One than any other administration. 10. Now that you've left the White House, thanks for the 140 pardons of convicted felons and indicted felons-in-exile. We will love to have them rejoin society. (Not to mention the scores you pardoned while Governor of Arkansas) 11. Thanks also for removing the White House silverware. I'm sure that Laura Bush didn't like the pattern anyway. Also, enjoy the housewarming gifts you've received from your "friends." Also thanks for stealing many items of White House furniture from the Lincoln bedroom and other locations. It possibly wasn't needed there anyway. 12. Thanks to you and your staff in the West Wing of the White House for vandalizing and destroying government property on the way out. I also appreciate removing all of that excess weight ( China, silverware, linen, towels, ash trays, soap, pens, magnetic compass, flight manuals, etc.) out of Air One. The weight savings means burning less fuel, thus less tax dollars spent on jet fuel. Thank you! 13. And finally, please ensure that Hillary enjoys the $8 million dollar advance for her "tell-all" book and you, Bill, the $10 million advance for your memoirs. Who says crime doesn't pay! 14. Thanks for appointing all those liberal judges to the 9th Circuit Court and throughout the nation. Your judges have ruled homosexual marriages are okay, Christians are evil, crosses on Government property are bad, the Ten Commandments can't be on Government property either, prayers in public schools are forbidden, etc. Some accomplishment Bill! "15"..... The last and most important point - thank you for forcing Israel to let Mohammed Atta go free. Terrorist pilot Mohammed Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners". However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands. The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all prisoners be released. Thus Mohammed Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified. It was censored in the US from all later reports. Why shouldn't Americans know the real truth? What a guy!! God bless America and THANK YOU (once again) for rising and spending my taxes so wisely and frugally. SINCERELY, A US Citizen PS. Please pass along a special thank you to Al Gore for "inventing" the Internet, without which I would not be able to send this wonderful, factual e-mail. And for his fabricating all those lies about global warming that he purports to be true! AND THE REST OF THE STORY Hillary Rodham Clinton, as a New York State Senator, now comes under the "Congressional Retirement and Staffing Plan," which means that even if she never gets reelected, she STILL receives her Congressional salary until she dies. (Would it not be nice if all Americans were pension eligible after only 4 years?) If Bill outlives her, he then inherits HER salary until HE dies. He is already getting his Presidential salary until he dies. If Hillary outlives Bill, she also gets HIS salary until she dies. Guess who pays for that? WE DO! It's common knowledge that in order for her to establish NY residency, they purchased a million dollar-plus house in upscale Chappaqua, New York. Makes sense. They are entitled to Secret Service protection for life. Still makes sense. Here is where it becomes interesting. Their mortgage payments hover at around $10,000 per month. BUT, an extra residence HAD to be built within the acreage to house the Secret Service agents. The Clintons charge the Federal government $10,000 monthly rent for the use of that extra residence, which is just about equal to their mortgage payment. This means that we, the taxpayers, are paying the Clinton's salary, mortgage, transportation, safety and security, as well as the salaries for their 12 man staff -- and, this is all perfectly legal! Just wait until Hillary runs for President in 2008!

Re: Homemade elevated tower blinds... whos got pic I have an abandoned farmstead and often I find myself hunting from the upper level of the garinery with a Mr. heater mounted on a propane tank and sitting on a lawn chair. It is not real classy but it is confortable and has produced quite a few good bucks.

Re: Bucks with no velvet!! Were about half and half rioght now.

Re: code blue scent Some people are believers and some aren't. I can't put a price on a trophy buck so i buy it as well as others. I know I have wasted more cash than that on dumber things.