hunterbobb

I wish the turkeys here in Wisconsin had those yellow dots on them. It sure makes things a lot easier.

I see Muzzy's mentioned alot. I'll add one more. I use Muzzy 125 gr. three blade.

OMG your an optimist. 6 - 10 seems more realistic to me.

It is not even close to being as bad a an old pick from years ago. Green Bay Packers select Tony Mandrich , Passing on a running back by the name of Barry Sanders. More than 20 years and I just can't get past it.

I agree, I don't know if the 30-30 has killed more deer than any other even still applies. However, you still hear people saying it all the time. I would agree that 30 calibers have killed more than any others.

Thats one for you Dakota, My blood pressure spiked when I saw your reply. Until I scrolled down. Good one you got me. :pop:

A recent post brought this up again and I want to try to shed some light on the misconception associated with this statement. First off the statement is probably true. However, just because it is true doesn't mean the 30-30 is some sort of magic deer killing machine. Ballistically speaking the 30-30, currently is at best a mediocore cartridge. The reason for it's glorious record is it's longevity and the massive number of rifles chambered for it. The 30-30 was developed in 1895 and at that time was the hottest thing on the market. Thousands of winchester and marlin lever action rifles chamberd in 30-30 were sold in the first 20 years of the century. No other caliber really competed with it until after World War I when returning soilders started using the then new 30-06 in limited numbers. However, the more modern calibers didn't really start to take off until after WW II. Some time around 1950. Now even though the new cartriges such as the 30-06, 270, 308, 7mm Mag. were out there, tradition has always been a hard thing to over come. Millions of huters believed that the 30-30 was good enough for grand pa so it will be good enough for me. So people continued to buy 30-30's even though there were now much better choices available. So my point is please stop saying "the 30-30 has killed more deer" like that it makes it some sort of magical deer killer. It has limited range, is marginally accurate, and falls in the middle when it comes to muzzel energy. Considering all this makes it a marginal deer killer. If you use this same logic in other areas, should we only eat at McDonalds cause they sell more humburgers than anyone else. :gun2:

I have used the V Max in 17 HMR and they were tack drivers. They are a little pricey but I guess it depnds on what you are shooting them at. I would look for something cheaper if it is just cans and paper. But then any one that can afford a magnum research rifle probaly is not concerned about the cost of ammo. LOL Congrats on the new gun I'm sure it's a beuty. :gun2:

I agree with what most everyone else is saying. I would give the Marlin XL7 a close look. I think it is the best economy grade rifle out there. :gun2:

I use an old Remington 510 22 lr. That has been fully restored to like new condition with a 4 power scope on it. I can shot the eye out of a squirrle at 50 yards with that rifle. :gun2:

I have a Bushnell Throphy camoflage turkey scope on my 870. It has screw in choke tubes on the barrel so it works great for turkey or deer. If you ever decide to leave your husband yoou sound like my kind of woman.

I've had one for about five years now. It is quite and does a great job of repelying the water. My experience has been the oppistie of blulund. Mine actually runs bigger than advertised. I have a 2XL and it fits more like a 3XL. The sleeves are so baggy I am afraid someday I will get my bowstring tangled in the sleeve. It hasn't happened yet though. Guess I should start wearing an arm guard with it.

Pete Richards sells a pine scented oil that I use. I don't trust any thing that says it has no scent. Them deers noses are just too good to take any chances. :gun2:

Annie I think you are a first. I have never met a woman that enjoyed guns and her husband didn't. First of all if the only choices on the table are a 223 or a 243 definatly go for the 243. The 243 has 60% more muzzel energy at 100 yards then the 223 does. Second if cost of the firearm is the primary concern I would look into the Marlin XL7. it is a new firearm that Marlin is selling for way less than it is worth. I think they are trying to break into the very competive boltaction rifle market and that is why they are selling so cheaply. The XL7 has many features you will find on rifles costing almost twice as much. Third here a piece of advice from an old gun crank. Based on what you said you will be hunting I would like to recommend another option. If it was me I would buy a Remington Model 7. Chambered in 260 Remington. Actually I already did buy one and I love it. The Remington Model Seven is a lightweight carbine that in my opinion is the best rifle on the market for women. It is a little bit smaller and lighter than any other production rifle and is easier for women to handle. If size and weight of the gun is not a consern then I appologize. As for the 260 Remington it is another step up on the ballistics scale having about 20% more muzzel energy than the 243. However this is a pricey rig and will cost at least twice as much as the Marlin. I hope this was helpful. If you have any furture questons feel free to seend me a private message. :gun2:

How embarressing is that, post number 1001 and you got it wrong. Sorry bluelund I'm just messing with you. The minium draw weight is 30lbs. They must have lowered it though cause when I first read this I thought is was 40 lbs too. 30 lbs seems a little light to me. Maybe they did that for all those new 10 year old hunters they are expecting. :gun2:

Yep put me down for that combination too. I've had lymes diease twice don't want to get it a third time. :gun2:

They may break but they are still one of the handiest inventions in a long time. I have a bunch of em.

It was a sad day. One we can't forget and one we can't let happen again. But what has really been done to make sure it doesn't.

I'm glad to see there are still young people in this country that have their priorities straight. Great dress young lady. :gun2:

I saw it and I agree it didn't live up to the Hype. It was ok and is worth watching. Just don't expect to be blown away by it. (pun intended) :gun2:

Each one is paritially right and partially wrong. :stupid:

Guess I must be odd. My favorite shows are "Lost" and "Monk" Both of which are in there final seasons. I don't watch outdoor shows anymore. After 20 years I think I've seen it all. Plus it just makes me feel bad that I'm sitting on the couch watching TV while these guys are out hunting and fishing. :gun2:

Aluminum blocks are supposedly more stable. The big problem with them is that it requires a skilled gunsmith to install one. There is many hours of hand work involved and we all know that means money. The glass bedding kits sold from Brownells are easy to use and can be done by anyone. They provide good results. The biggest thing to remember is to read the directions several times and be certain you understand everything they say before you start working. Finally, don't skimp on the release agent. If you mess up and don't use enough release agent you could find your action and stock have become one soild piece. While this is not good for cleaning and maintenence it actually has some accuarcey benefits. P.S. You are obviously a highly intellegent person based on your choice of hunting dog. Yellow Labs are the best aren't they? :gun2:

I have heard lots of good things about them. I have looked at them and they seem like a well made rifle. I have not bought one yet but I am planning on getting one in 270 soon. :gun2:

Anybody hunt them or shoot them. :gun2: